The switch may be getting ready to go out. I have seen several instances where the fog lites would not turn off even with the key out of the ignition and run the battery down. Just a thoughtPete E. Kruzer said:Recently when I put the RIGHT turn signal on, the foglight comes on. I assume it comes on, because the instrument panel foglight indicator comes on. Doesn't do it on a LEFT turn signal. Any ideas? I know how to turn the foglights on and off. The handle is pushed in to the OFF position, but signal for a right turn, and on comes the indicator light. And maybe the fog lights.
The switch may be getting ready to go out. I have seen several instances where the fog lites would not turn off even with the key out of the ignition and run the battery down. Just a thought
Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech
You can disconnect them at the lites if you want. the switch is easy to replace, just make sure you don't forget to put the old T/S relay into the new switch if you do the job. Im not sure how much the switch is, maybe $100? Me personally I think the PT Cruiser has been a very good reliable vehicle.Pete E. Kruzer said:++++++++++++++
Thanks Glenn, I just went out and checked. YES, when the turn signal lever is ser for a right turn, the indicator light and the two fog lights come on. Can I have the fog lights disconnected, I've never used them one time, or am I still cruisn'* for a new light switch.
*Pun intended, how much should I be prepared to spend to have the switch replaced? If I need a light switch (PT has 45K on it) it just further confirms my suspicion that PT means Piece (of) Trash!
maxpower said:You can disconnect them at the lites if you want. the switch is easy to replace, just make sure you don't forget to put the old T/S relay into the new switch if you do the job. Im not sure how much the switch is, maybe $100? Me personally I think the PT Cruiser has been a very good reliable vehicle.
Glenn
position, but signal for a right turn, and on comes the indicator light. And maybe the fog lights.
Pete E. Kruzer said:++++++++++++++
Thanks Glenn, I just went out and checked. YES, when the turn signal lever is ser for a right turn, the indicator light and the two fog lights come on. Can I have the fog lights disconnected, I've never used them one time, or am I still cruisn'* for a new light switch.
*Pun intended, how much should I be prepared to spend to have the switch replaced? If I need a light switch (PT has 45K on it) it just further confirms my suspicion that PT means Piece (of) Trash!
I agree with the reliability and style of the PT, however, having had a 2003 sedan and 2005 convertible, the gas mileage is mediocre. The 03 had the standard engine and did not get over 22 ever! The 05 had the 180HP turbo and the best it could acheve was 24, once! We traded it in two weeks ago for a 2007 Dodge Caliber and have been very pleased with the car, getting over 26 city and on our first short trip, 27, the car has less than 700 miles on it. I would like to have seen the PT with the 2.0 engine and the CVT gearbox, or better, the diesel that is sold in Europe.You're right Glenn. The PT is one of the better vehicles out there. We are on our second one ('07 in Opal metalic w/ 5 speed stick) and we love it. We put 131,000 miles on our first one and only replaced brakes and tires.
I agree with all that you say about the safety, the style, the reliability, etc. The gas mileage was killing us: what with gas here in South Florida at $3 and sometimes over, it was costing us $400 a month just to commute 200 miles a week, not counting going to the store or to eat locally. I am saying that the PT should have been designed with an engine that gets better mileage to go with its great looks. I also own a fully restored 1940 Chyrsler Royal coupe with overdrive,and it can get 21 on the road with a 241.5 c.i. flathead six. I would have purchased another PT if it would have had a different engine/transmission combination.I bought our 2006 PT Cruiser not for mpg but because it seemed like a fairly safe car for my daughter to drive, could carry her entire dorm room in the back with the seats removed, and was the right price point for me. I do get grief from the Accord / Honda owners over how loud the engine sounds and what they consider piss poor mpg (about 10 mpg less than their rice wagons)
My wife and I had 2003 and 2005 PT's. We got a new Caliber SXT and are loving it. You do not need to get the R/XT with all the bells and whistles.|I bought our 2006 PT Cruiser not for mpg ....
I forgot to mention the first dealer I went to was pushing the new Caliber at the time.. It didn't seem to be able to carry as much "stuff" as the PT Cruiser would, but I was told my daughter would love being seen in the Caliber and it had all this whiz bang neato stuff.. like the glove box cooler and drop down rear thumper speakers and lots of cup holders and power outlets.. whoopee !
I agree with all that you say about the safety, the style, the reliability, etc. The gas mileage was killing us: what with gas here in South Florida at $3 and sometimes over, it was costing us $400 a month just to commute 200 miles a week, not counting going to the store or to eat locally. I am saying that the PT should have been designed with an engine that gets better mileage to go with its great looks. I also own a fully restored 1940 Chyrsler Royal coupe with overdrive,and it can get 21 on the road with a 241.5 c.i. flathead six. I would have purchased another PT if it would have had a different engine/transmission combination.
Steve B. said:200 miles a week
x5 weeks in a long month
1000 miles
add in a couple hundred miles for the store and stuff
1200 miles
/15mpg if you drive like a maniac
80gals gas per month
X $3 a gallon
$240 for an absolute worst case month with a maniac driver.
You better buy a locking gas cap!
Steve B.
Steve,200 miles a week
x5 weeks in a long month
1000 miles
add in a couple hundred miles for the store and stuff
1200 miles
/15mpg if you drive like a maniac
80gals gas per month
X $3 a gallon
$240 for an absolute worst case month with a maniac driver.
You better buy a locking gas cap!
Steve B.
Steve,
I am not complaining about the PT. However, what you didn't know is:
$500/month payment on the turbo PT, yea, my wife wanted her first "expensive" car, gas running close to $400 bills a month, in South Florida, you don't go anywhere without a car and gas is the most expensive here in Palm Beach and Martin County, maybe because they think that just because Tiger Woods lives on Jupiter Island, we all can pay high prices. Last night, just to meet friends for a weekend, we had to drive to South Broward, that was 70 miles one way,of course we didn't have to do that. So, I hope that where you live, that a car is not so important. As I stated, we really only have one car, the antique has been around for a long time and is used for car shows and our club hobby, only driven to shows and maybe for a Sunday drive. So, when you add up my figures for the PT, it was getting close to $900 a month just to drive the thing! Now with the Caliber, $141 a month less, and our gas bill has been cut, so far in half. If the PT Cruiser had that mileage and payment, I would still be driving one.
Steve B. said:My point was that you are either driving a lot more than you said you are or you had an issue with gas theft as there is no way you could get a PT to use that much gas in so few miles.
I agree that mileage on a PT sucks. I drive a '95 Fleetwood for work and regularly get better mileage than my friend gets out of their two PT's. My car weighs twice as much and has an LT1 higher performance 350 in it so I just can't figure out what the heck a PT can do with all that gas.
Steve B.
Steve,My point was that you are either driving a lot more than you said you are or you had an issue with gas theft as there is no way you could get a PT to use that much gas in so few miles.
I agree that mileage on a PT sucks. I drive a '95 Fleetwood for work and regularly get better mileage than my friend gets out of their two PT's. My car weighs twice as much and has an LT1 higher performance 350 in it so I just can't figure out what the heck a PT can do with all that gas.
Steve B.
Steve,
We seem to be getting into agreement here on the fact that the gas mileage on the PT sucks big time. There was no gas theft, and the mileage I stated that we drove was correct. The 180hp turbo Touring Edition was supposed to get better than the 150hp standard that I had in my 2003, but did not! I drove a 1949 Chrysler with a 135hp straight eight and got better mileage! I, and many others on PT forums cannot understand how the car will just not get the gas mileage. I realize that it is an "emotional" buy and not one for pure mileage, but come on! A 2.4 four cylinder that cannot get better than 22! Just refilled my Caliber today, got 28.115mpg, now that is getting some good mileage! I used and am using Mobil One synthetic oil in all my cars, except the 1940, and even used the K & N air filter in the PT's because I read that it did increase the mileage by a little bit, which it surprisingly did, but not much. I had a 1992 Lincoln Continental V-6 that would get 30 mpg on the road and 24 in town, so something is very wrong here.
