What GM and Chrysler should be discussing

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Jim Higgins, Feb 20, 2007.

  1. Jim Higgins

    Jim Higgins Guest

    A Blue Light Special on Chrysler?

    What GM and Chrysler should be discussing
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    NEW YORK (Fortune) -- Of course, the idea of GM (Charts) buying Chrysler is
    preposterous. GM's biggest problem is overcapacity, and Chrysler is full of
    things that GM already has too much of: assembly plants, workers, retirees,
    car brands, car models, and dealers.

    For more than a decade, GM has been trying to slim down; acquiring Chrysler
    would only fatten it up again. If that isn't reason enough, consider this:
    Try to think of one automotive takeover that has actually worked. There
    haven't been any successful ones in modern memory but there have been plenty
    of failures: Renault-American Motors; Ford-Jaguar; Studebaker-Packard. These
    things always look good on paper but then collapse in the execution.

    Chrysler's Valentine's Day massacre
    There is a reason why Carlos Ghosn didn't try to merge Renault and Nissan --
    he knew it wasn't worth the effort. The idea that GM would want to buy
    Chrysler's sales volume so that it could remain Number One in the world is
    hilariously dumb. GM needs to get stronger, not bigger.

    But if Chrysler were to be broken up, and all its parts chucked into the
    bargain bin, that's a different story. Picking around the pieces, GM could
    find some attractive deals.

    Here are a few:

    The Jeep Brand. Although Chrysler has done its best to dilute the value of
    this American icon by building vehicles that are challenged in quality and
    functionality, the Jeep name still resonates with buyers. GM hopes that
    Hummer can some day challenge it, but in-your-face Hummer represents only a
    subset of the whole off-roading culture that Jeep can lay claim to. Taking
    on Jeep, and leaving Hummer to the X-games people, would be a smart move.

    Diesel engines. Modern diesel engines offer one possible solution to the
    alternative energy problem. American automakers have been slow to jump
    aboard because they believe that consumers hate them. But diesels are no
    longer smoky and smelly, and they provide excellent mileage. Chrysler has
    access to Daimler's diesel technology, which is top-drawer. GM is so far
    behind the curve that it entered into a disastrous deal with Fiat a couple
    of years ago largely to tap into its diesel expertise.

    The Dakota midsize pickup. GM dropped the ball when it redesigned its small
    pickups, the Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon, and didn't leave any room in the
    engine bay for a six-cylinder engine. The Dakota is a sturdy and successful
    truck that has got room to grow if customers start tiring of their
    fuel-thirsty V-8 powered fullsize trucks.

    10 Cars worth waiting for
    The Chrysler Technology Center. The gleaming black structure off I-75 north
    of Detroit was one of Lee Iacocca's better ideas. He consolidated all of
    Chrysler's far-flung engineering and research facilities under one modern
    roof and used the new building as a recruiting tool. GM could do the same
    thing. Its engineering complex in Warren, Michigan, with its flat-roofed,
    Saarinen-designed buildings made sense back when GM controlled 50% of the
    U.S. market. Today it looks dated and ragged around the edges. GM could sell
    the land for a golf course or housing development and move into smarter
    facilities up the road.

    People. Although GM has a solid team of executives, it could cherry-pick
    from the Chrysler roster. Would Chrysler COO Eric Ridenour be a worthy
    successor to 75-year-old GM vice chairman Bob Lutz? Might not some young
    Chrysler designers add flair to GM's already-improving staff? And how about
    some of that sharp Chrysler marketing talent to rejuvenate GM's efforts?

    So, picking and choosing, it is possible to find some jewels in the Chrysler
    wreckage that would benefit GM. But all this feels like arguing about the
    number of angels that can fit on the head of a pin. The U.S. auto industry
    is in a period of consolidation that is probably only about 50% complete and
    new entrants will continue to whittle away at the market share held by
    American automakers.

    By the end of the decade, cars made in India and China will likely start
    arriving in the U.S. and there is no end in sight. If GM expects to survive
    this influx, it will have to continue to make better use of its global
    resources and not be distracted by ill-conceived mergers.

    As for Chrysler, it would be better off staying attached to Daimler. If
    anyone knows how to fix Chrysler, it is DaimlerChrysler (Charts) chairman
    Dieter Zetsche. And so far, Daimler's investment in Chrysler looks cheap
    compared to its other fiascos involving Mitsubishi and Smart -- and has a
    lot more upside.
     
    Jim Higgins, Feb 20, 2007
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    kmatheson Guest

    You're right. History is full of failed automotive mergers.

    All this talk about GM buying Chrysler has me concerned. If GM were to
    buy Chrysler, how long would GM be required to provide parts for
    Chrysler vehicles?

    Would be be left *high and dry* after the period agreed to in the
    purchase agreement expires?

    When I look at the 4 Door Sedan lineup from GM and Ford, there is not
    anything that appeals to me. The Malibu and Impala come close, but
    that's about it.

    I still believe that Chrysler still makes the best Minivan of the big
    three. I wonder what GM would do to the vans.

    -KM
     
    kmatheson, Feb 20, 2007
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    The Henchman Guest

    Minivans are dying. I think GM woul dleave the minivans alone though. This
    was Chrysler's strong point all along.

    I just recently bought a 2004 Sebring instead of a 2005 Malibu. I should
    have bought the 2007 civic 4 door as It's a made in Canada car. But I
    needed truck and rear seat room and American cars are dirt cheap used. When
    I was in the Chrysler show room nothing appealed to me in their new cars
    except the the Nitro and Small Jeep variant.
     
    The Henchman, Feb 21, 2007
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    who Guest

    Probably better or equal to any other van.
    Not upgrade them for so long the buyers go elsewhere. >:)
     
    who, Feb 21, 2007
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    Just Facts Guest

    I believe D paid about 36 B for Chrysler.
    Current Chrysler value 5 B.
    Chrysler's net cost to D 31 B.
     
    Just Facts, Feb 21, 2007
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    Joe Guest

    That's about par for an auto company merger. Here's where we find out how
    smart Daimler management is. If they sell right now, it won't be very
    smart.

    On the other hand, we already know how smart Daimler stockholders are. The
    stock went up about 5% just on the rumor that Chrysler was to be given away.
     
    Joe, Feb 21, 2007
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    Just Facts Guest

    I believe Chrysler stock went up as well.
    Investors like action, either way!
     
    Just Facts, Feb 22, 2007
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