VIN Location 93 Shadow

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Shane, Feb 12, 2005.

  1. Shane

    Shane Guest

    I have to tell you, this used 93 Shadow I bought has turned into a
    nightmare. I took it for state inspection and it passed everything,
    except the VIN plate was mounted upside down (actually its the mirror
    image). The guys at the inspection station told me I need to take it to
    the State Police and have it cleared, and if it's stolen they take
    possession of the car and I lose it (understandable).

    What I would like to know is if anyone knows where the other VIN is
    located so I can check it before I show up at the police station with a

    I ran a carfacts check on it and the car has been in this area since it
    was first purchased. It was also in a front impact accident, which may
    explain the flipped VIN plate. It's very weird. You would think with
    something that important that either the thief or the mechanic would
    have put it on correctly. It doesn't appear to have been tampered with.
    The rivets look original.

    Apparently, there are two other locations for VIN's that only the
    authorities know about. That is too cool. Kinda James Bond-ish.
    Shane, Feb 12, 2005
  2. Shane

    HarryS Guest

    Check under the drivers seat there should be a paper there with your VIN on
    it. The paper is usually tucked in the springs, check your driver side of
    the engine it also should have your VIN, midway down on the unibody frame
    will also have your VIN.

    HarryS, Feb 12, 2005
  3. Shane

    Bill Putney Guest

    Hmmm - if it turns out to be stolen, and Carfax didn't reveal that fact,
    doesn't their guarantee cover the cost of the vehicle.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
    Bill Putney, Feb 12, 2005
  4. Shane

    HarryS Guest

    What usually happens when a vehicle is front end wrecked, it is totaled and
    junked. Then the dash is removed and switched with a stolen vehicle along
    with the VIN tag it is easy to duplicate the OEM pop rivets on the VIN tag,
    throw the dash back on a stolen same color car and you got yourself a legal
    car. The only way to get a VIN tag upside down is by remove it and
    reinstall it in this case the wrong way. Although very suspicious it does
    happen and when you take to the Police they will let you know if it has been

    The other reason would be that when the vehicle was wrecked the dash was
    replaced and they removed the VIN tag and just placed it upside down.

    Also, there two more areas on a vehicle where the VIN is located besides the
    two I had mentioned. Most vehicles after 1985 have 3-4 places where the VIN
    is located. After 1990 the VIN has on some high end vehicles has been
    embedded as a hologram and unless you know where to look you will never find

    HarryS, Feb 12, 2005
  5. Shane

    kmatheson Guest

    If you have a *clear* vehicle title, it should have the VIN printed on
    it on it. It should also be listed on the back of the warranty booklet,
    if it is still with the owners manual. That info had to be be filled in
    to activate the original warranty.

    The VIN may also be listed on a sticker on the driver's side door, just
    below the latch.

    -Kirk Matheson
    kmatheson, Feb 12, 2005
  6. Shane

    ThaDriver Guest

    Not sure about the Shadow but most cars have the VIN on a plate under the
    hood, & somewhere on the frame rails. Some cars also have them stamped on
    the top of the inner fender, but you have to unbolt the fender to see it.
    Search at Yahoo, Google, & the ODP ( ) using different
    terms like "Shadow VIN locations" & "Dodge Shadow identification".
    ~ Paul
    aka "Tha Driver"

    Giggle Cream - it makes dessert *funny*!
    ThaDriver, Feb 12, 2005
  7. Shane

    Shane Guest

    I checked the VIN on the drivers door and it matched. I couldn't find
    any other numbers to compare.

    I really doubt that it was stolen. The thief would be real dumb to put
    the VIN on upside down. But, I fully expect this to be a pain in the
    butt with the police. They will probably want me to get it put on
    correctly, and that looks like a REAL fun job.

    A for the carfacts guarantee, if the title and VIN are legit, but the
    car it's on is not legit, than they wouldn't know the difference. So, I
    don't think it's covered, but if I find out its stolen, I will
    certainly try it! lol

    I've got about $1400 into this car, and it's in great shape for a 93,
    all it needs is a paint job. Another $700-800, and I should have a
    decent car. I know it's a bit much for that old of a car, but hey, it's
    been fun. Live and learn.

    Shane, Feb 12, 2005
  8. Open the driver's door and look at its rear edge, near the latch catch.
    From the factory, all vehicles have a tamper-evident VSCL (Vehicle Safety
    Certification Label) that contains the VIN.

    The guy who thinks there is a "piece of paper with the VIN on it under the
    seat" is smoking crack.
    Factually incorrect. There are *many* other locations for the VIN: Inside
    the doors, inside the hood and trunk panel, front and rear bumper, and
    numerous others as required by Federal law.
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 12, 2005
  9. Shane

    ThaDriver Guest

    You're gonna want to fix that plate whether they require it or not. Any
    time you get stopped it could be a major hassle, & your car could be
    towed. Get a good manual & *expect* to spend a good day pulling the dash,
    drilling out the rivets, & riveting it back on. If it takes less time then
    you'll be very pleased. :)
    ~ Paul
    aka "Tha Driver"

    Easy on the Giggle Cream!
    ThaDriver, Feb 12, 2005
  10. The VIN is also stamped right into the engine block and transaxle case.
    Richard Ehrenberg, Feb 12, 2005
  11. Remove windshield (if it wants replacing, now's a great time)
    Remove defogger grille cover, exposing VIN plate and plate bracket
    Repair upside-down VIN plate
    Reinstall windshield.
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 13, 2005
  12. Shane

    Mike Behnke Guest


    Common locations of the vehicle identification number vary and some may be
    as follows:

    a.. Firewall of the vehicle
    b.. Left hand inner wheel arch
    c.. Steering column
    d.. Radiator Support Bracket
    e.. Dash by windshield
    f.. Drivers door or post or passenger side
    g.. Guarantee & Maintenance Book Vehicle documents
    h.. Machined Pad on front of engine
    i.. Component parts as listed above -e.g.- engine, frame, etc.
    Later model years - most common area's of VIN:
    * Left instrumentation/dash plate by window
    * Drivers door or post
    * Firewall


    Each manufacturer and each manufacturing plant stamp each vehicle with a
    "third VIN" that is normally only 10 digits but can verify the
    vehicle's ID. On GM vehicles, look for it along the rocker panel under
    the carpet on the left side just in front of the drivers seat. Jaguar,
    look for it along the rear frame cross member, left side. any vehicle
    with a separate frame will have it stamped into it, however it is
    normally along the top of the rail and you will normally need a mirror
    to see it. Some foreign vehicle have it stamped into the "frame rail"
    just behind the transmission. If you know a State Trooper that deals
    with vehicles he will be able to give you an area to look for the
    stamped VIN.
    Mike Behnke, Feb 14, 2005
  13. Shane

    Bill the two Guest

    Is it blue or gray/white?
    Bill the two, Feb 17, 2005
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