Two good reasons to go MacIntosh

[Bill 2]

That's because most of the SW home users need comes with a Mac. <

Think about it, M$ is strictly a software company. They aren't going to give away their lively hood. Apple is a hardware company which also makes some excellent software, used on both Macs and Win.

Many Win users many not know it, but their Quicktime which is the internet standard for media, is an Apple product and Apple gives it away.

I thought you said Apple makes "excellent software". Quicktime is not excellent software. I rank it just one notch above Real Networks junk. And I thought the internet standard for video would be MPEG.

 

[Mark (archive)]

I thought you said Apple makes "excellent software". Quicktime is not excellent software. I rank it just one notch above Real Networks junk. And I thought the internet standard for video would be MPEG.

The internet standard for video IS mpeg. Not would be.

 

[Dori A Schmetterling]

Just curious: why do you rate Real player (and QT) "junk"?

And what is much better?

DAS

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[Bill 2]

Just curious: why do you rate Real player (and QT) "junk"?

Because they latch into the system and try to seize control, and have shitty interfaces.

And what is much better?

Media player 6.

 

[James C. Reeves]

That's because most of the SW home users need comes with a Mac. <

Think about it, M$ is strictly a software company. They aren't going to give away their lively hood. Apple is a hardware company which also makes some excellent software, used on both Macs and Win.

Many Win users many not know it, but their Quicktime which is the internet standard for media, is an Apple product and Apple gives it away.

Most of the media content I've seen is either Real or WMA. I don't have Quicktime on my PC and it's been years since I've hit a site that requires it. I think you're mistaken about it being "*the* Internet standard"

 

[James C. Reeves]

Oh, Christ.

Here we go again with the smug Macintologists vs. the blinkered, yappy, defensive Microsoftians.

And in completely inappropriate groups, too.

What fun.

DS

I dunno...maybe not Sometimes one of them crashes! ;-)

 

[James C. Reeves]

Exactly. There are several competiting standards. Although your need for Quicktime does not sound like a Internet requirement, but one imposed by your camera manufacturer. If you didn't have the camera, you likely wouldn't need Qucktime.

It really is Apple and it is quite widespread. I use it to play movies produced on my Minolta stills camera. Won't play on another format.

I tried to without QT (trying to minimise stuff on my computer) but cannot. I need Real player to run BBC programmes (long story but somehing to do with what format was available when the BBC started offering audio files) and I use WMA for other things.

DAS
Windows user, not fanatic about Mac

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Oh really! I have had QT.. and on updating PC's just left it out.

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[Daniel J. Stern]

I dunno...maybe not Sometimes one of them crashes! ;-)

*chuckle*

 

[Frank Ross]

well now what is the discusion thread? something to do with microsoft and apples not exactly apples and oranges but you may be able to catch the drift as they say

 

[Bill Putney]

OMFG!!! This is a particularity of spyware isnt? Going back in the startup after (trying) removing it! Is Quicktime a spyware?

hmmmm...

Well, while some spyware does that, it is not a defining characteristic of spyware. Perhaps one could reasonably put it in the broader category of "malware", but even that might be a stretch. Think of what the names "spyware" and "malware" mean in their pure sense, and I think you'll see what I mean. Does it fit into the category of "annoying"? Absolutely!

To get rid of it, you have to edit the registry - but the first time after that that you watch a video that uses QT - there it is again loading itself at every startup.

Bill Putney
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[Bill Putney]

Because they latch into the system and try to seize control...

I agree - RP is just about as bad as QT in that regard.

Bill Putney
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[Bill Putney]

Exactly. There are several competiting standards. Although your need for Quicktime does not sound like a Internet requirement, but one imposed by your camera manufacturer. If you didn't have the camera, you likely wouldn't need Qucktime.

But about the same percentage of digicam shoppers will bother to find out if they can only be used with QT as the percentage of car shoppers that will bother to find out if the cams are belt, chain, or gear driven
- important things to know, but, right or wrong, usually not a factor in the buying decision.

Bill Putney
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[StingRay]

Most of the media content I've seen is either Real or WMA. I don't have Quicktime on my PC and it's been years since I've hit a site that requires it. I think you're mistaken about it being "*the* Internet standard"

I agree with James. I don't use QuickTime, but a buddy of mine uses it for picture viewing and I think it's awful for that use. Nero is far superior.

 

[Bill Putney]

well now what is the discusion thread? something to do with microsoft and apples not exactly apples and oranges but you may be able to catch the drift as they say

Speaking of that, did you know that there were computers in the Graden of Eden? Yep - Eve had an Apple in one hand and a Wang in the other. (That joke won't mean anything to the younger crowd, but the older people here will get it.)

Bill Putney
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[cloudster]

To get rid of it, you have to edit the registry - but the first time after that that you watch a video that uses QT - there it is again loading itself at every startup.

It wasn't quite that difficult for me. I used the QuickTime settings applet in Windows Control Panel, went to the Browser Plug-in section, unchecked QuickTime system tray icon, and I'm done.

 

[David (archive)]

Speaking of that, did you know that there were computers in the Graden of Eden? Yep - Eve had an Apple in one hand and a Wang in the other. (That joke won't mean anything to the younger crowd, but the older people here will get it.)

I'll say! My Grampa says Wang! and peckerwood. He's 80

 

[Daniel J. Stern]

Speaking of that, did you know that there were computers in the Graden of Eden? Yep - Eve had an Apple in one hand and a Wang in the other. (That joke won't mean anything to the younger crowd, but the older people here will get it.)

....are ya ready boots?

 

[Bill Putney]

...are ya ready boots?

start walkin'!

Yeah - about the same era.

Bill Putney
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[Bill Putney]

I'll say! My Grampa says Wang! and peckerwood. He's 80

Yeah - but does he know what a Wang computer is?

Bill Putney
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[Bill Putney]

Bill Putney wrote:

It wasn't quite that difficult for me. I used the QuickTime settings applet in Windows Control Panel, went to the Browser Plug-in section, unchecked QuickTime system tray icon, and I'm done.

Hmmm - I just learned something. And they said that was impossible!

Bill Putney
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