The Last Really Good Chrysler Product

Not to worry - help is on the way. If JK gets elected, all he'll have
to do is say to Saudi Arabia "Hey guys - could you lower the prices a
little?", and they'd say "Oh - ummm - OK!". Problem solved. 8^)

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
adddress with the letter 'x')

 

The Omnorizons were good cars for basic transport. My main beef with
them vis-a-vis the VW Rabbit/Golf (early ones had Rabbit/Golf
drivelines) was no diesel-unlike the VW, Ford Escort, and Shovette. I
have heard it's possible, with a little fabrication, to swap a VW
engine and trans in them and the little mini-pickup 024 with a VW TDi
and five speed would be cool.

But they would run longer than the owners wanted them to usually.

The Slant 6, despite its three main bearing lower end, is a pleasant
enough engine and it's a shame there never was a small enough, and
rustproof enough, chassis for them to shine. With three sidedrafts and
tube header exhaust they would be pretty swank. If memory serves they
have a different bolt pattern than any Mopar V8 and to add to the
misery unless they were sold with a manual there's no crank pilot
hole, which is a pain in the ass to have drilled out because it has to
be done on a lathe rather than a crank grinder.

The asymmmetrical XNR would make a great kit (hint,hint.)


As I remember, the Nissan SD33 was sold by Chrysler as a "Chrysler
Nissan Diesel" (replete with a so-embossed chrome rocker box cover)
and it had a standard Mopar bolt pattern. Was it that of a /6 or one
of the V8's? These were sold as a Chrysler Industrial product and not
put in cars but Tony Capana did a bunch of swaps. They suffered from
lack of a 5 speed manual or a four speed Torqueflite but today that
would be remediable. One of the old Valiants with the trunk lid
reminiscent of a Westinghouse 45° washer would make a good host for
one of these great engines,especially if someone could figure out how
to get a pushbutton transmission controller to work with a four speed
Torqueflite.

 

Yeah like Bush solved any problems in the last 3.5 years. Give us all a
break. The guy is one catastrophe after another.

 

...FOUR main bearings located well above the pan rail, each of which the
same size as those found in Chrysler's big-block V8s, and all of which
support a forged steel crankshaft (on engines built between '60 and
mid-'76; engines after mid-'76 have a nodular iron crank, which isn't as
sexy but is plenty strong enough for all non-race purposes). There's no
"despite" about it -- it was and is considerably more than adequate.

For certain definitions of "swank", sure, I guess.

False; it's there, just not fully finished out to accept a standard pilot
bushing. There's a special pilot bushing that fits in such cranks.

Doubtful but possible. The factory installed a few of these turds into
Dodge D100 pickups in '78-'79.

Such a swap would be very much akin to entering a church, climbing atop
the altar, dropping trou and taking a dump.

Lower the dosage, guy.

 

Oh yes - I know, Art, how in a parallel universe in which the PoTUS was
Gore or Kerry for the last 4 years the Islamists are all just peace and
love, 9/11 never happened, flu shots are abounding, women still can't
vote in Afghanistan, Afghanistan no longer produces poppies as the raw
materials for it's biggest export, Kofi Anan's son stopped making
under-the-table deals with France and Germany in the Oil for Food
program which was their motivation for blocking the taking out of Sadam,
Sadam quit offering and paying suicide bomber/murderers' families for
their loving acts against innocents, the DNC recalled it's policy of
routing out voter fraud wherever they could find it and, where it didn't
exist, to plant the idea that it did anyway in the minds of the public,
everyone is covered by free cradle-to-grave health insurance while taxes
have dropped to their lowest levels ever and the national debt has been
wiped out, industry is being punished by disincentives to keep
production in the U.S. yet they are magically doubling the size of all
their U.S. production facilities every year, genocide was prevented by
the UN in Sudan, U.S. unemployment figures match the double-digit
numbers of France and Germany, and Al Franken and James Carville both
have viable radio talk shows.

I just can't wait for the Kerry Utopian society in which we need to pass
the Global Approval Test before we take appropriate action in light of
the Oil for Food stuff and absolute appalling UN inaction in Sudan (I
guess they're waiting once again for the U.S. to go in and try to fix it
so we get the blame for any and all problems and the other countries can
continue to profit from the situation). Yes - we want a guy as
President who met with the Viet Cong in Paris while the war was still
going on - Yeah - that's my man for President! What a joke.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
adddress with the letter 'x')

 

...FOUR main bearings located well above the pan rail, each of which the

I stand corrected.

and all of which

I believe you are errant.

The Dodge _vans_ were briefly sold with Mits, not Nissan, engines. I
don't know about the trucks. It would surprise me to learn they put
Mitses in the vans and Nissans in the trucks-on second thought nothing
Mopar did surprises me really. I will check this out.

The SD Nissans are very tough, durable engines with reasonable torque
and are simple to work on, and weight is about the same as a /6. Why
you think that makes them "turds" is a mystery. I have seen ones
(actually SD22s which are the four cylinder variant-same cylinder
kits, valves, pushrods, et al) that have rolled 55,000 hours in ground
support equipment using only raw Jet A for fuel and Aeroshell for oil.
They were getting tough to start in the cold and a little smoky but
they were probably superb cores-no cracks. I'm very fond of these
powerplants. Those that were cared for at all well are still powering
IH Scouts.

They are not high horsepower and naturally aspirated ones will smoke
a little sometimes. Power to weight isn't superb, but we weren't
talking about flying one anyway. (If that were the criteria we'd all
go Subaru, which has replaced tha aircooled VW and various Fords as
the car engine most often seen hanging off firewalls at Oshkosh.) No
one is flying any engine Mopar per se ever built, however the current
production Mercedes diesel four is the core of the certificated
Thielert TAE 125 aircraft engine package...

 

Yes and yes.

 

|
| Oh yes - I know, Art, how in a parallel universe in which the PoTUS was
| Gore or Kerry for the last 4 years the Islamists are all just peace and
| love, 9/11 never happened, flu shots are abounding, women still can't
| vote in Afghanistan, Afghanistan no longer produces poppies as the raw
| materials for it's biggest export, Kofi Anan's son stopped making
| under-the-table deals with France and Germany in the Oil for Food
| program which was their motivation for blocking the taking out of Sadam,
| Sadam quit offering and paying suicide bomber/murderers' families for
| their loving acts against innocents, the DNC recalled it's policy of
| routing out voter fraud wherever they could find it and, where it didn't
| exist, to plant the idea that it did anyway in the minds of the public,
| everyone is covered by free cradle-to-grave health insurance while taxes
| have dropped to their lowest levels ever and the national debt has been
| wiped out, industry is being punished by disincentives to keep
| production in the U.S. yet they are magically doubling the size of all
| their U.S. production facilities every year, genocide was prevented by
| the UN in Sudan, U.S. unemployment figures match the double-digit
| numbers of France and Germany, and Al Franken and James Carville both
| have viable radio talk shows.
|
| I just can't wait for the Kerry Utopian society in which we need to pass
| the Global Approval Test before we take appropriate action in light of
| the Oil for Food stuff and absolute appalling UN inaction in Sudan (I
| guess they're waiting once again for the U.S. to go in and try to fix it
| so we get the blame for any and all problems and the other countries can
| continue to profit from the situation). Yes - we want a guy as
| President who met with the Viet Cong in Paris while the war was still
| going on - Yeah - that's my man for President! What a joke.
|
| Bill Putney
| (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
| adddress with the letter 'x')
|

Well stated...

 

041023 1801 - Ted Azito posted:

Speaking of "peckerwood"...

http://www.arches.uga.edu/~dpopov/BigWoody.jpg

 

|
| On Thu, 21 Oct 2004, Joe wrote:
|
| > He's telling you the truth. We have 3% of the population and use 25% of
| > the energy. If only India and China come up to 1/10 (one-tenth) of our
| > standard of living, where's the extra energy going to come from? Anybody
| > got any ideas? China's economy is growing at about 10% a year or so.
|
| And the worst part is, it doesn't have to be this way. We could
| simultaneously reduce greenhouse gas emissions, preserve and multiply
| American jobs and greatly retard the increase of oil prices.
|
| All we'd have to do is quit buying from China.
|
|

People like their cheap products...so your solution isn't really viable. Even
if we could get people in the USA to "buy-in" to that solution, you won't get
the rest of the world to.

Actually Bush's energy plan had a very well balanced approach of tax incentives
for development of alternative and renewable fuels for the long term as well as
improving the supply of domestic energy to deal with the shorter term issues
(that have only gotten worse since). However, the democrats zeroed in on the
small piece they didn't like (the domestic supply piece) so it never saw the
light of day in Congress. We'd be in a little better spot now (both in the
short term and working on the long term) if it had been passed.

At one time the plan was available as a PDF file on the Whitehouse site...I
read it. It was a very good well-rounded and comprehensive plan that had
something in it for everyone. Hydrogen vehicle research/development tax
breaks? Yep! Solar, wind and geothermal energy tax incentives? Yep!
Drilling in Alaska? Yep! Oh wait...that last issue killed the whole thing!
Sad, ain't it?

 

| 041023 1801 - Ted Azito posted:
|
| >> Ted Azito wrote:
| >>
| >>> My uncle...
| >>>
| >>> Yes, he's a peckerwood...
| >>
| >> Please define "peckerwood". Is it like "redneck"? Or is it like art,
| >> i.e., hard to define, and you just know it when you see it.
| >>
| >>
| > Yes and yes.
|
| Speaking of "peckerwood"...
|
| http://www.arches.uga.edu/~dpopov/BigWoody.jpg
|

Yikes!

 

There was a plane built in 1936 with a plymouth flathead engine. This
was a PRODUCTION plane.

 

One doesn't follow from the other. What people like or dislike doesn't
affect the viability of the solution, just its conceptual popularity.
People are stupidly shortsighted; what else is new?

Wouldn't need to; the US is China's biggest export market.

....of cutting down old-growth and cutting down new-growth and warring for
oil and burning rocks^h^h^h^h^hdirt^h^h^h^hcoal, yes.

I'd have to remain very skeptical that Mr. Bush would come up with a very
well balanced approach to energy policy unless I read the primary
document. Still got the PDF?

(BTW, why have you got your newsreader set to use the | character rather
than the > character for quoted text? The > character is the standard, and
many newsreaders don't handle | well.)

 

I believe you meant "mistaken" or "incorrect", for "errant" makes no sense
in this context. Whichever of the three you meant, I am not.

That's as may be, but the D100 was available with the Nissan diesel in
'78-'79. I've got a contemporaneous Popular Mechanics with a road test of
it, around here somewhere, and at one time was in regular contact with a
former owner of such a truck.

According to the road test (and the abovementioned former owner), the
trucks took about 35 minutes to go from 0 to 60, once you got them
started, which took considerable patience. Exhaust smoke was heavy.
Horsepower was something ridiculous for a D100 -- I'd have to re-read the
road test, but it was something like 72BHP; totally inadequate.

Who the hell cares if you could get 22 mpg on the highway if you were
doing it at 22 mph trying to lug a week's worth of groceries up a 1%
grade?


DS

 

I'll also add: A company in California offered a Dart/Valiant/Duster
conversion using this same Nissan diesel engine from '73 to '74. That
vehicle, like the factory-equipped '78-'79 D100 pickups, was excessively
noisy, bog slow, extremely smoky and bitchy to start from cold.

We're supposed to think you've got a great idea here because *why* again?

 

041023 1904 - James C. Reeves posted:

Some guys are real artists with a chainsaw aren't they???

 

And you had to repost all of it for your stupid "me too" when you could
have just said, "Moo."

 

| 041023 1904 - James C. Reeves posted:
|
| >
| > | > | 041023 1801 - Ted Azito posted:
| > |
| > | > | >> Ted Azito wrote:
| > | >>
| > | >>> My uncle...
| > | >>>
| > | >>> Yes, he's a peckerwood...
| > | >>
| > | >> Please define "peckerwood". Is it like "redneck"? Or is it like art,
| > | >> i.e., hard to define, and you just know it when you see it.
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | > Yes and yes.
| > |
| > | Speaking of "peckerwood"...
| > |
| > | http://www.arches.uga.edu/~dpopov/BigWoody.jpg
| > |
| >
| > Yikes!
| >
| >
|
| Some guys are real artists with a chainsaw aren't they???

Apparently so, but the artistic subject is a bit odd...unless it's the only
"woody" the guy can have!

 

You won't, though; you only want to troll. You'll get a lot of responses
from this group but I'll call you, ****: Post it.

doc

 

|
| >
| > Well stated...
|
| And you had to repost all of it for your stupid "me too" when you could
| have just said, "Moo."

Cite where I said "me too".

Oink!