Steering Rack

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by ncs, Feb 7, 2005.

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    ncs Guest

    I have a 93 3.3 Grand Caravan. About 2 years ago I had to replace the
    steering rack. Last year I had to do it again because it was leaking. Now
    I see it's starting to leak again. The racks are remanufactured from
    CarQuest. Lifetime warranty, but I don't like the idea of replacing them
    every year or 18 months. Has anyone else had bad experiences with CarQuest
    parts or steering racks in general ? Any suggestions on where to get a
    better part or are they remanufactured by only a few companies.

    ncs, Feb 7, 2005
  2. It's amazing and sad that people will continue to inflict the
    unreliability and the time and money waste of "remanufactured" parts upon
    themselves again and again and again, all the while going "But...lifetime
    warranty! Lifetime warranty! Lifetime warranty! It can't be the
    'remanufacturing' process, it must be, um, the store I bought it from!
    After all, lifetime warranty!".
    Check with Steer & Gear, or look in your local yellow pages.
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 7, 2005
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    Steve Guest

    I've been dealing with my local CarQuest and its predecessor(same
    management) for some 26 years. No telling how many thousands of
    dollars. Can't recall ever getting a bad reman. part from them. The
    staff there is good as gold...they will tell me if what they are
    selling is junk or if it's good stuff based on feedback from other
    customers. I sure as heck can't say that about some of the
    others....Autozone, Checker, Advance, etc. My only steering rack
    experience with them is a CarQuest reman. we've been running in our '96
    Grand Voyager for about 4 years and 60,000 miles with no problems. I
    would be looking for another source of using the wrong
    fluid or not adequately flushing the old fluid from the pump and lines.

    Steve, Feb 7, 2005
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    David Guest

    Could be, and it could be shitty re-man for carquest. Carquest does not make
    the re-man part, they buy it from a re-man facility. Which typically can be
    from a reputable re-builder , or a shoddy one. I suspect the re-builder uses
    shitty seals, or does not change the seals during the rebuilding process.
    David, Feb 7, 2005
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Daniel - Is this a situation where a part from NAPA will likely be
    better (a btter screened supplier, etc.)?

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
    Bill Putney, Feb 8, 2005
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    aarcuda69062 Guest

    It might vary according to what region of the U.S. but around
    here, Cardone is the rebuilder for both Carquest and NAPA for
    such parts.
    aarcuda69062, Feb 8, 2005
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    ncs Guest

    thanks for the advice. I'm wasn't aware that there could be a wrong fluid.
    I used Valvoline SynPower. Is there a more preferred brand that's better ?

    ncs, Feb 8, 2005
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    ncs Guest

    It's tough for me to gauge which is a better part by just looking at them,
    which is the only thing I have to go by. True a lifetime warranty doesn't
    do me much good if the part keeps failing.
    I think the dealer sells reman. parts also and they are more expensive. Is
    there one or two parts chains out there that is better than most ? NAPA vs.
    AutoZone, CarQuest vs. local stores ? And I've never had a problem with
    these chains and their parts before. They are usually pretty good and

    ncs, Feb 8, 2005
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    Nate Nagel Guest

    I am lucky that I have two good independent parts stores near me, but
    NAPA is also usually good. I've heard good things about CarQuest but
    I've never lived near one. Pep Boys, AutoZone etc. I usually only go to
    for consumables like oil etc., although AutoZone seems to be getting a
    little better.

    Nate Nagel, Feb 8, 2005
  10. My experience with replacing rebuilt steering racks from AutoZone was
    positive. In each case, the replacement unit worked perfectly and gave
    no trouble until I finally sold the car. In the case of the '86 Mark
    VII, it was about 40 months. In the case of the '87 Taurus, it was only
    10 months. Paid $105(1/2001) for the Mark VII and $70 for the Taurus
    Stan K.
    Stan Kasperski, Feb 8, 2005
  11. Yep: Fluid that specifically indicates it meets the relevant Chrysler
    spec. Not "universal" P/S fluid, not transmission fluid, etc.
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 9, 2005
  12. Time was, yes. Nowtimes, NAPA is cheapening-down their line to try to
    compete with Schmuck's, AutoBone, Schlep Boys, etc. Their O2 sensors used
    to be Echlin (good), now Bosch (highly inconsistent). Their remanufactured
    components used to be Rayloc (reliable), now Cardone (junk).
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 9, 2005
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    Lars Guest

    funny... my power steering on my 2004 PT says ATF +4 for it, same as the
    transmision wonder if many more models are the same.
    Lars, Feb 9, 2005
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    Guest Guest

    While it was UAP up here in Canada, the parts were generally pretty
    good. You could buy their in-house VERDIC brand and save some money,
    getting sometimes slightly less quality.

    Since they went to UAP/NAPA, and now simply NAPA, the quality of MANY
    parts has definitely taken a HUGE nose-dive. My brother's shop is in
    the other side of a NAPA store - and it's getting to the point the
    "inhouse parts department" is getting a lot less of his business
    because he's getting sick and tired of constantly returning defective
    parts - and crap that's boxed wrong right from the warehouse. He has
    had 3 different (wrong) parts supplied under the same part number
    before getting the right one........
    Guest, Feb 9, 2005
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    Joe Guest

    Pesonally, I just don't mess with the low-quality for low-bucks outfits any
    more. I found out many years ago that real parts stores (the kind with an
    ashtray shaped like a tire and fan belts hanging from the ceiling) are
    actually cheaper than Advance Auto. That did it for me. I used to have to
    put on 2 or 3 rebuilt starters from Advance to get a good one. I don't have
    to do that any more!

    There are certain things you shouldn't buy rebuilt, but I don't really know
    if racks are in that category. I've never replaced the first one. I don't
    even look to see if they're leaking. Have you considered doing nothing?
    That's probably what I'm doing, because I don't know if my rack is leaking
    or not.
    Joe, Feb 9, 2005
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Per TSB No. 19-005-03, you are correct for the Cruiser and most Chrysler
    vehicles of very late 90's and later. However, Daniel is correct on the
    earlier Caravans that still have to use the approved power steering
    fluid only. The TSB has a chart that is too complex to copy here, but
    unless I missed something, there's nothing earlier than '99 for which
    ATF+4 can be used for p.s. fluid, but there are some vehicles that must
    not use ATF+4 for p.s. even as late as '04 MY ('05 MY is not in the
    chart) - that's why I say, you've got to see the chart to determine the
    requirements for any given vehicle.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
    Bill Putney, Feb 9, 2005
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    ncs Guest

    So are you saying to buy from the local auto parts stores versus the chains
    ? I see there's a site on the web, '' that charges
    about $40.00 more but says it's racks are better than the production line
    racks put out by the remanufactures. Anyone have any experience with these
    people ?

    ncs, Feb 9, 2005
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    scott_z500 Guest

    If NAPA has cheapened their line, where am I supposed to go for parts
    scott_z500, Feb 9, 2005
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    My experience is that NAPA will now offer you two parts, one which
    costs a whole bunch more than the other. Take the expensive one.
    Joe Pfeiffer, Feb 9, 2005
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    Mike Behnke Guest

    When all else fails, read the freaking owners manual or call your
    local dealer.
    Mike Behnke, Feb 9, 2005
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