Sodium silicate being used to destroy engines in gov't cash-for-clunkersprogram.

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by MoPar Man, Aug 4, 2009.

  1. MoPar Man

    MoPar Man Guest

    A lot of good vehicles are being destroyed by this product, and this
    program.

    See also:

    http://www.castlepackspower.com/Catalog/ClunkerBomb/

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    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124934376942503053.html

    The Killer App for Clunkers Breathes Fresh Life Into 'Liquid Glass'
    AUGUST 4, 2009

    By KEVIN HELLIKER

    Robert Mueller deals in chemicals for a living -- things that can
    unstick glue, thin paint, make plastic -- but he'd never seen an order
    like the one he got for sodium silicate.

    The compound is typically used to repel bugs or seal concrete, but this
    buyer's online order form betrayed a whole different intent: "To Kill
    Car Engines."

    "That worried me a little, so I picked up the phone and called the
    gentleman," recalls Mr. Mueller, an owner of chemical-firm CQ Concepts
    Inc. in suburban Chicago.

    What Mr. Mueller discovered is that sodium silicate is the designated
    agent of death for cars surrendered under the federal cash-for-clunkers
    program. To receive government reimbursement, auto dealers who offer
    rebates on new cars in exchange for so-called clunkers must agree to
    "kill" the old models, using a method the government outlines in great
    detail in its 136-page manual for dealers: Drain the engine of oil and
    replace it with two quarts of a sodium-silicate solution.

    "The heat of the operating engine then dehydrates the solution leaving
    solid sodium silicate distributed throughout the engine's oiled surfaces
    and moving parts," says the National Highway Traffic Safety
    Administration publication. "These solids quickly abrade the bearings
    causing the engine to seize while damaging the moving parts of the
    engine and coating all of the oil passages."

    In a nation packed with experts on how to keep cars running, the
    engine-killing powers of sodium silicate are a well-kept secret. "I,
    like, have so not even ever heard of this before," said Robert Lutz, new
    marketing chief and renowned "car guy" at General Motors Co., in an
    email.

    Often called liquid glass, sodium-silicate solution has been better
    known for being used to save motors rather than killing them: It is used
    to stop leaks in the gaskets that seal cylinder heads to engine blocks.

    At dealerships across America, mechanics accustomed to fixing engines
    are battling for the chance to ruin them. "Everybody wants to go first,
    so I'm probably going to have to make them draw straws," says Jim Burton
    of Randy Curnow Buick Pontiac GMC in Kansas City, Kan. As service
    manager, however, he might reserve that thrill for himself. "I can't
    wait," he says.

    Over the weekend, half a dozen mechanics gathered around three clunkers
    marked for death at Jim Clark Motors in Lawrence, Kan. As Loris Brubeck
    Jr., the dealership's president, held a stopwatch, the sodium-silicate
    solution took two minutes flat to kill a 2002 Ford Windstar, and just a
    few seconds more to kill a 1999 Jeep. But a 1988 Dodge van lasted more
    than six minutes.

    "Sometimes those old engines, they're the hardest to kill," says Mr.
    Brubeck.

    The automotive death sentences are meant to ensure that gas-guzzling old
    models make no return to the road. As sodium silicate disables an entire
    generation of junkyard-bound cars, the price of used engines will likely
    skyrocket, predicts Michael Wilson, executive vice president of the
    Automotive Recyclers Association. "It's the law of supply and demand."

    Before settling on sodium silicate, the government considered other
    methods of execution, including drilling a hole in the engine block and
    running the engine without oil. But it concluded that sodium silicate
    was safest for mechanics and for the environment. In its instructions to
    dealers, the government says that the federal Food and Drug
    Administration classifies sodium silicate as GRAS -- "generally regarded
    as safe."

    To engines, however, its damage is irreversible. "Once that silicate
    plugs everything up, it would be virtually impossible to clean that
    engine out," says Mr. Burton, the Kansas City service manager.

    Consisting largely of ingredients as common as salt and sand, sodium
    silicate isn't hard to make. "It is widely available and inexpensive,"
    said a spokeswoman for the American Chemical Council. For auto dealers,
    a car-killing dose costs about $5.

    But while manufacturers have plenty on hand, the government failed to
    warn distributors about the impending onslaught of demand from car
    dealers.

    "It's like the government decided to put every old car in America in
    mothballs without giving any heads up to mothball" suppliers, says John
    See, owner of the ChemistryStore.com near Columbia, S.C.

    Mr. See's business mostly sells ingredients to soap and candle makers,
    his largest seller being melt-and-pour soap. But within hours of the
    federal government on July 24 releasing the details of the
    cash-for-clunkers program, a dealer called Mr. See and asked about
    sodium silicate. Up to that point, Mr. See's eight-year-old business had
    sold only about 150 gallons of sodium silicate a year, mostly for use to
    waterproof masonry.

    But within moments of learning about its new purpose, Mr. See ordered
    enormous supplies and purchased prime space on Google, so that his
    company popped up in searches for sodium silicate. Last week, he sold
    4,600 gallons of it, and the rush is continuing. "We're working 16 hour
    days, and we've got friends and family helping out filling orders," says
    Mr. See.

    In Grand Rapids, Mich., a company called Cleaning Solutions Inc.
    received a call from a dealer ordering a large supply for the clunkers
    program. When an employee recommended investing heavily in inventory and
    marketing, owner Ron Balk hesitated. In decades of selling the product,
    he'd never heard of it used as an engine-killer. But a few calls to
    local dealers convinced him otherwise: They quickly bought out his
    existing supply, prompting him to order large amounts of the product.
    "We've been working 12-hour shifts ever since," says Mr. Balk.

    Back in suburban Chicago, Mr. Mueller says his company sold 15,000
    gallons of sodium silicate last week, up from a typical level of 200
    gallons a week. "At one point this week I worked 32 hours without a
    break," says Mr. Mueller.

    His company receives the product in 275-gallon containers and sells it
    in smaller amounts, often five-gallon pails. This week, he says, "the
    average dealership is ordering one to three pails, and a five-gallon
    pail will treat 10 cars."

    Long an obscure item in the CQ Concepts catalog, sodium silicate has
    become "the best-selling product of the year," says Mr. Mueller.
     
    MoPar Man, Aug 4, 2009
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  2. MoPar Man

    Steve Guest


    Yeah, if you like cars do NOT go looking at the videos on YouTube.
    Videos of brain-dead morons at dealership lots, giggling like little
    girls as they pour in the silicate and destroy perfectly good engines.
    The whole program is an OBSCENE waste of good parts and good money.

    What is the gummint going to do when one of those engines throws a rod
    right through the brain-pan of the guy running the engine?
     
    Steve, Aug 5, 2009
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