service engine soon light

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Gordon, Aug 8, 2006.

  1. Gordon

    Gordon Guest

    2002 Dodge Stratus R/T

    85,000 miles

    Seem after filling the gas tank the service engine soon light comes on and stays on till the tank is about half empty. The light comes on about 30 miles after refueling. The fuel
    cap is on as tight as it will go. This has been going on for the past 5 or 6 fuel tank refills...
     
    Gordon, Aug 8, 2006
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  2. Gordon

    maxpower Guest

    stays on till the tank is about half empty. The light comes on about 30
    miles after refueling. The fuel
    Get the fault code and post it!! Most parts stores will do that for free.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Aug 8, 2006
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  3. Gordon

    RM v2.0 Guest

    Bad seal on fuel cap?
     
    RM v2.0, Aug 8, 2006
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  4. Gordon

    maxpower Guest

    If you are filling it up and then immediately driving off it has nothing to
    do with the fuel cap. Find out what fault code has been stored

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Aug 8, 2006
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  5. Gordon

    philthy Guest

    cycle the ignition key 3 times and watch the odometer to see if any fault codes
    are recorded and displayed then disconnect the battery for 5 minutes and see
    what happens with the lite
     
    philthy, Aug 9, 2006
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  6. Gordon

    Gordon Guest


    This has been my guess.
     
    Gordon, Aug 9, 2006
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    maxpower Guest

    Hey dirty I see you found out how to use spell check!!! now just learn how
    to post to the correct person.
     
    maxpower, Aug 9, 2006
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  8. Gordon

    maxpower Guest

    The only time that monitor is run would be when the outside temp is within
    10 degrees of the engine temperature. If your engine is hot at the pump the
    monitor will not run until it cools down.
    Find out what fault code is stored.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Aug 9, 2006
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  9. Gordon

    Gordon Guest


    Thanks and will do as soon as I get a chance. Does the light have to be on or does the microprocessor store errors? The light went back out yesterday afternoon, fuel tank @ 2/3
    full...
     
    Gordon, Aug 10, 2006
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    maxpower Guest

     
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    Gordon Guest

     
    Gordon, Aug 17, 2006
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    maxpower Guest

     
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    Gordon Guest

     
    Gordon, Aug 17, 2006
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    MT-2500 Guest

    OK. Finally got to AutoZone. Code was "02 sensor Bank 1 Sensor 2"

    Codes do not say replace sensor. They say check it out.
    4 or 5 different codes for that sensor.
    What was the code no?
    MT
     
    MT-2500, Aug 17, 2006
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  15. Gordon

    Gordon Guest


    Never saw a code number. It read "2 Codes" then next. Read "O2 sensor". Then next and read "O2 Sensor Bank 1 Sensor 2". What's there to check out on an O2 sensor? and if you
    remove one with 85,000 miles on it why not replace it?
     
    Gordon, Aug 17, 2006
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    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Par for the course when someone uses a half assed diagnostic tool.
    There are numerous tests that can be performed WRT voltages,
    switching time, cross counts, switching thresholds, heater
    current.
    Because it would be pointless until you knew the exact failure.
    For as much as the parts store told you, the SES light could be
    triggered because of a broken wire or bad ground to the O2 heater
    circuit, and replacing the sensor itself is not likely to be a
    remedy in that case.
    Since the sensor sells for $175.00, it would make more sense to
    be sure.
     
    aarcuda69062, Aug 17, 2006
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  17. Gordon

    Gordon Guest

    Actually I seem to remember seeing "O2 Sensor Heater" in the first code...


    Considering this car was serviced 3 or so months ago by the local Dodge Dealer for a SES light with a $1200.00 bill attached for tune-up et, al, I'm reluctant to return it to the
    same dealer. The 'code' at that time was "multiple misfires" as quoted by the service writer.
     
    Gordon, Aug 18, 2006
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  18. Gordon

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    The whole point of OBD2 is to be able to specifically define the
    failure. Somewhere in Nebraska isn't going to cut it.
    Do you honestly think that some McDonalds reject at Autozoo is
    going to be more proficient?
    The cost of repairing a car is something that should be
    considered before the purchase, not after. It is what it is.
    If you don't trust the last dealer, go to a different one or go
    to an independent shop.
    And odds are that it's totally unrelated to the problem you have
    now.
     
    aarcuda69062, Aug 18, 2006
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  19. Gordon

    Gordon Guest

    And you're convinced the dealer's tech didn't graduate from Autozoo?

    Thanks for the dissertation, Again not very helpful. How would one know just what will go wrong and the cost 5 years hence? Are you always so angry?
    Agreed! I've never trusted dealer service shops. However knowing the O2 sensor might be at fault going into the shop is a huge advantage.
    Priceless! Possibly 2 major repair bills inside of 3 months sounds to be a somewhat excessive need for repair on this car. Maybe Chrysler has gotten the last dollar from my
    pocket!
     
    Gordon, Aug 18, 2006
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    aarcuda69062 Guest

    I'm convinced the autozoo guy didn't graduate from Chrysler
    training.
    Actually, very helpful.
    Call any service facility (dealer or independent) and ask them
    how much a tune up (or any other service) will cost.
    What makes you think I'm angry?
    Your car needed service at 80xxx miles, completely normal, it now
    has some more needed service, also completely normal. Mechanical
    devices, especially ones as complicated as a late model
    automobile wear out and break, they also periodically need things
    replaced as maintenance.
    Big difference between knowing what "might be wrong" and knowing
    what actually -is- wrong.
    You haven't been driving very long, have you?
    I'd suggest a GM product.
    (you need educating)
     
    aarcuda69062, Aug 18, 2006
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