Recent SUV 5 mph crash tests (Pacifica ranked poorly)

Discussion in 'Pacifica' started by MoPar Man, Nov 29, 2003.

  1. MoPar Man

    DTJ Guest

    Who cares. The fact is, if someone is too stupid to see a brake light
    mounted on the bumper, they shouldn't be driving. Now we are
    discussing where brake lights should be for the center mounted light.

    Sheesh.

    I understand how people can feel we should be as safe as possible, but
    people need to take responsibility. If you are unable to see a normal
    light, having those normal lights all in the same location won't help.
     
    DTJ, Dec 14, 2003
    #61
  2. MoPar Man

    Aardwolf Guest

    They sure have. They took the classic "British Expedition" (no pun intended)
    look and turned it into a slab-sided detail-free refridgerator-on-wheels that
    looks like it's bodied in cheap sheet plastic.

    --Aardwolf.
     
    Aardwolf, Dec 14, 2003
    #62
  3. The REAR FOGS are a great idea, but the problem is, MOST people
    drive with their fogs on anytime thier headlights are on, so that
    BRIGHT LIGHT on the back is just a distraction, not a safty item it
    would be in bad weather.
     
    Richard Benner Jr, Dec 14, 2003
    #63
  4. MoPar Man

    Forest Guest

    Who cares. The fact is, if someone is too stupid to see a brake light
    Amen brother, I focus on the car! I've always done that and in most cases
    the vehicle in front of that too. Comes from many miles of driving 18
    wheelers where I had a birds eye view and was able to see many vehicles
    ahead. I've trained myself to be aware of more than what's directly in
    front. Besides, lights these days are very confusing. Night time is a
    different story.
     
    Forest, Dec 14, 2003
    #64
  5. MoPar Man

    Aardwolf Guest

    But it will if you are.

    --Aardwolf.
     
    Aardwolf, Dec 15, 2003
    #65
  6. Who cares. The fact is, if someone is too stupid to see a brake light
    At first I thought they were both visually obtrusive and an example of
    the Nanny State. However, big-city commuting convinced me to not only
    accept them but retrofit them to my own older cars. I think they
    offer four advantages:

    * They help resolve ambiguity in heavy traffic with their unique if
    not quite standard location. No more catching a glimpse of something
    red and wondering if it is a brake light, a turn signal, a
    taillight...

    * They arguably attract more attention with the sudden appearance of
    light in a new place than you could with the brightening of a lamp
    that is already on.

    * They can often be seen from further away in thick traffic, allowing
    you to learn sooner that slowing or stopping is imminent.

    * And (human nature being what it is) they give you *some* chance at a
    clue when a driver ahead has some of his tail lamps burned out, busted
    out, or miswired.


    In other words, you get better knowledge sooner about things that will
    soon involve you.

    Cheers,
    --Joe
     
    Ad absurdum per aspera, Dec 15, 2003
    #66
  7. Despite the name, the height of the CHMSL is not particularly
    standardized.
     
    Matthew Russotto, Dec 15, 2003
    #67
  8. MoPar Man

    DTJ Guest

    I take it you mean "it will help to have the lights in one location if
    you are able to see a normal light".

    I fail to see how forcing all manufacturers to locate lights at the
    exact same spot in space in relation to a vehicle is going to help at
    all.

    Should cars all mount their brake lights on posts to make them the
    same height as trucks, or should trucks have them all very low?
     
    DTJ, Dec 16, 2003
    #68
  9. [SNIP]
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    | Should cars all mount their brake lights on posts to make them the
    | same height as trucks, or should trucks have them all very low?

    I vote for a auto system. When a big rig is following behind, a sonar system
    would automatically extends a motorized retractable center pole with a brake
    light on the end of it to the approximate height of the driver's windshield of
    the rig. :) Maybe we should make it strobe too like some in a separate
    thread suggest. I'm sure we have the technology to make this happen. Heck,
    maybe J.C. Whitney has a aftermarket unit that would do the trick! :)
     
    James C. Reeves, Jan 2, 2004
    #69
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