rear wheel drum on 1999 voyager

Discussion in 'Voyager' started by Robbie and Laura Reynolds, Sep 21, 2006.

  1. I am planning to inspect my rear brakes this weekend, as I suspect there
    might be a problem back there. I tried briefly to get one rear drum off
    a few months ago when I replaced the front brakes, but it was being held
    in place somehow and I didn't feel like messing with it at the time.
    Before I get into it this Saturday, do you suppose it's just the shoes
    getting caught on a ridge in the drum, or is there some kind of sneaky
    pin or clip that holds this drum in place?
     
    Robbie and Laura Reynolds, Sep 21, 2006
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    wrightz28 Guest

    More than likely just the shoes caught. You can use a hammer with a
    medium amount of effort, and strike the sides of the drum to free them
    up. Sometimes it only takes a few times, sometimes alot.
     
    wrightz28, Sep 21, 2006
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    NewMan Guest

    I don't suppose you had the parking brake on by any chance??? ;)

    If I recall correctly on my 1994 with rear drums, the style is
    different than others I encountered. That is, on some vehicles I have
    owned, the drum was NOT a part of the bearing assembly, so when the
    wheel was removed, you could simply slide the drum off to gain access
    to the brake mechanism.

    This was NOT the case on my GC. The bearings are actually part of the
    drum assembly. As such, there should be a dust cap over the outer
    bearing. Remove the dust cap, then the cotter pin, and pin back the
    hex nut. As you spin back the hex nut, you will unload the bearings,
    and you should notice the drum fall downward slightly.

    All you have to do is remove the nut completely and then the drum
    should slide off. The outer bearing was held in by the nut and a
    washer. The inner bearing was held in place by a bearing retaining
    seal.

    I had to do this because I needed to re-pack my rear wheel bearings.
    But I did take the opportunity to clean, inspect and adjust my rear
    brakes at the same time. :)

    hth
     
    NewMan, Sep 21, 2006
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  4. The 1999 model has a separate drum that goes on over the hub assembly.
    I've had the older style drums off lots of times, but I've never had to
    do anything to this one yet. And the parking brake was off.
     
    Robbie and Laura Reynolds, Sep 21, 2006
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    MT-2500 Guest

    Drum brakes have self adjusters. If it will not come off you will need
    to back off self adjuster.
    You will need a wire or curver object to reach in there and push the
    adjuster lever back so you can spin the adjuster wheel back to losen it
    up.
    Takes a little practice and a repair manual may help.
    Good luck.
    MT
     
    MT-2500, Sep 21, 2006
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    DeserTBoB Guest

    This is FWD. Thus, I'd expect that you're probably trying to take the
    wheel bearing off without removing the nut. Take the hub cap off (no,
    not the wheel cover) and see if the the drum is riveted to the bearing
    hub.
     
    DeserTBoB, Sep 21, 2006
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    ricebike Guest

    :werd.. there should be an oval rubber plug on the backing plate,
    usually near the metal brake line going to the wheel cylinder...
    [image:
    http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/gif/medium/0900823d801a4c1a.gif]

    see *#7* ? the thing right in the middle is the star-wheel adjuster...
    dunno which way you'll haveta go 50:50 in turning it up or down...

    *# 12* is what keeps the shoes adjusted properly to the drums & that's
    what's keeping your drum "stuck"... gotta lift this up & turn that
    wheel w/ another screwdriver in some cases...

    you'll see a ridge on the inner part of the drum when you finally
    remove it... adviseable to go have them resurfaced when removed...

    -edit: ha, ive found it!- all courtesy to autozone free online repair
    manual!

    [image:
    http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/jpg/small/0900823d801a4c39.jpg]

    rubber plug

    [image:
    http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/jpg/small/0900823d801a4b8b.jpg]

    using a special brake tool or flathead screwdriver & a few expletives
    should do it!

    Newman's case is different since he didn't have the sealed hub-bearing
    design...

    wright z28's testimony: yeap, my sis' 97 chevy cavalier didn't come w/
    that rubber plug in the back & had to bring out a big rubber mallet,
    said a few expletives & bang it loose to take the drum off; what were u
    thinking GM?!?!
     
    ricebike, Sep 21, 2006
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  8. Per my other post, the drum comes off without removing the bearing
    assembly. Concensus seems to be that there is no hidden attachment
    hardware on this drum. Thanks so much.
     
    Robbie and Laura Reynolds, Sep 21, 2006
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  9. My nephew was trying to get the drum off a Corolla and I told him to
    loosen the adjuster nut. It didn't help, so as a last resort I asked
    him for an exact account of everything he had done to get ready for the
    job. His list included setting the parking brake. Oops.

    I'm sure this one will come right off as soon as I loosen the adjuster.
    I was just making sure that there wasn't some tricky clip or retaining
    pin in there somewhere.
     
    Robbie and Laura Reynolds, Sep 21, 2006
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    It's the shoes behind the wear ridge. Pull out the rubber plug and use
    a large screwdriver to back off the adjuster wheel.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Sep 22, 2006
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    ricebike Guest

     
    ricebike, Sep 22, 2006
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    Doug Guest


    If it still doesn't come off, try looking for a threaded hole in the
    drum near the center.
    The tech manual for my 2002 Caravan specifies the size of metric bolt
    that should be screwed into the drum to pop the drum off of the hub.
    While the drum IS separate from the hub, the center hole of the drum
    is a friction fit onto the hub. With a bit of rust and crud, they seem
    to freeze into place.

    Inserting that bolt pops the drum off.

    Doug
     
    Doug, Sep 22, 2006
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