PCV Valve

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by ll, Feb 10, 2005.

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    ll Guest

    '97 Chrysler T&C LX, 3.8L
    I want to replace the PCV valve. I live midway between
    two Chrysler dealers. I called the parts department at one
    and they charge $18. I called the other and they charge $15.
    I called three independent parts places and they were all $3.

    Is there a downside to using an aftermarket PCV valve?
    I know that dealers always charge more, but 5x-6x more? Why?
    ll, Feb 10, 2005
  2. Their flow characteristics are not as reliably accurate as an OEM valve.
    That said, $15 is absurd. See what price comes up if you use one of the
    online Mopar parts places like onlinemoparparts.com
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 10, 2005
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    Ken Pisichko Guest

    Still pretty expensive - at $11.88 aon the web site shown as compared to
    the $14.85 "list". Thanks for this "heads up", Dan.
    Ken Pisichko, Feb 11, 2005
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    Comboverfish Guest

    Is there a downside to using an aftermarket PCV valve?
    Half of the extra price is because it is he exact right part for your
    car, and probably the best made valve at any price on the market. The
    other half is that dealers have always made a killing on parts and
    they're not about to stop anytime soon. The extra $3 from the one
    dealer is because dealers can set their own prices above or below
    Chrysler's suggested list price. Typically your receipt will show
    whatever you paid as "list", but technically its not.

    I'm going out on a limb here, but I would guess that the worst case
    scenario of using the not quite exact PCV valve would be that its
    different orifice size could cause your computer to compensate fuel
    delivery more than normal at idle/high idle speeds. I don't think it
    would be made so wrong as to seriously affect crankcase venting or run
    your fuel trim limits to the max.

    Toyota MDT in MO
    Comboverfish, Feb 11, 2005
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    Bill Putney Guest

    I haven't bought an aftermarket PCV valve in a few yeras, but I know the
    last time I looked at some in the store, they were crap (the machining
    finish on the poppet was atrocious and would he let a truck thru in the
    "closed" mode - even the name-brand ones like Purolator. Also, when I
    used to hang out on Subaru forums about that same time, it was generally
    agreed that the aftermarket PCV valves didn;t wiork very well when new -
    an item recommended to be gotten from the dealer (and once dealers
    become aware of these public perceptions, they are sure to take
    advantage of it).

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
    Bill Putney, Feb 11, 2005
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    Back when we had a dealer in town with a parts department that
    understood volume, they sold their parts to me at what they called
    "garage prices", which was always very close to the price at NAPA.
    Now they charge me what they call list, so I buy my parts from NAPA or
    from various Chrysler dealers I find on the web.
    Joe Pfeiffer, Feb 11, 2005
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    ll Guest

    Thanks for your responses. It appears that most of the $3
    PCV valves are made by Fram. One additional data point:
    I called a NAPA dealer and theirs is $4. He said that it's
    not Fram.

    I visited one of the Chrysler dealers I mentioned previously,
    took a look at the OEM PCV valve, and learned a few things.
    1) It's made of plastic like the Fram. I was hoping that for $18
    it would be metal like the old days. 2) Their _cost_ is $9!
    Is the dollar so weak that Daimler wants a wheelbarrow full
    of American dollars for tiny plastic parts?

    Thanks for the onlinemoparparts.com reference. Mot only does it
    show that MSRP for my 3.8L PCV value is $15, but MSRP for the
    3.0L (was that the Mitsubishi?) is $35! What's up with that?
    ll, Feb 12, 2005
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    Steve Guest

    Gotta pay the boat fuel from China.....

    show that MSRP for my 3.8L PCV value is $15, but MSRP for the
    3.0L (was that the Mitsubishi?) is $35! What's up with that? <<
    Steve, Feb 12, 2005
  9. The "old days" ended in 1969 for PCV valves. There's nothing wrong with
    plastic PCV valves as long as they're made of the right kinds of plastic.
    The 3.8 is an entirely American design. Daimler had nothing to do with the
    design of the PCV valve.
    You pay more for superior (cough!) Japanese quality (cough!).
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 13, 2005
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