Pacifica engines KAPUT!

Discussion in 'Pacifica' started by Derek, Feb 6, 2004.

  1. Derek

    tango Guest

    Because he rightfully thought that most people who are interested in
    Chrysler products would be interested.
    tango, Feb 10, 2004
  2. Derek

    Geoff Guest

    I think they might be back up and making LXs, at least in small quantities.
    I saw a 300C on the road in Sterling Heights, MI on Sunday.

    Geoff, Feb 10, 2004
  3. Derek

    Steve Guest

    I guess the problem some people are having is with the subject line,
    "Pacifica engines KAPUT!"

    Other than that, I don't see why all the fuss. Lines stop while problems
    are fixed all the time, as I understand it. It could be anything from a
    bad batch of washers or bolts or snaprings or whatnot, to a fundamental
    problem in the design (although doubtful since the engine's been in
    production so long with no problems).
    Steve, Feb 10, 2004
  4. I'm very interested in Chrysler products. I'm not much interested in
    rumors about Chrysler. I'd only be interested if they were known to be
    shipping defective product. That would be of interest to almost
    everyone here. I'm very glad to hear Chrysler is doing the right thing
    here, but it is hardly newsworthy. My opinion, others can express theirs.

    Matthew S. Whiting, Feb 11, 2004
  5. Yes, both the subject line and the tone of the first post were clearly
    intended to negatively reflect on Chrysler. All of the later
    backpedaling doesn't change that.

    Matthew S. Whiting, Feb 11, 2004
  6. Derek

    Dave Doyon Guest

    Quality problems are not new for Chrysler. It's not a worker problem, it's a
    cost cutting problem. Maybe he hopes to help someone not to be stuck with a
    lemon? The last two Chryslers I owned spend more time in for repairs than
    the road. Thanks for the warning.
    Dave Doyon, Feb 12, 2004
  7. And your basis for this assertion is...?
    By spreading rumours and guesses? Don't think so.

    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 12, 2004
  8. And how will this post tell you which vehicles were affected? You'd
    need to know the VINs produced by day and shift. Also, if Chrysler
    corrects the problem, which by all appearances they intend to do, there
    won't be a problem. Hence the post was nothing more than tabloid
    material, which was the obvious intent from the screaming subject line
    and content of the original post.

    Matthew S. Whiting, Feb 12, 2004
  9. Derek

    Mike Behnke Guest


    The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

    Mike Behnke, Feb 12, 2004
  10. Derek

    Mike Behnke Guest

    Could he be refering to the Bramelea Assembly Plant, which I beleive
    is in the Brampton, Ontario, area?
    Mike Behnke, Feb 13, 2004
  11. Derek

    Thor Guest

    Hi there,

    finally some real information - thanks !

    So, how long has this problem been around ?
    Is there already a TSB, or does this affect only a smaller batch of
    cars/engines built with rods from a particular supplier ?

    My Pacifica was built in 09/2003 (bought in 12/03) and I have put ~3k
    miles on it. No engine problems whatsoever, as of now. How fast do the
    rods fail, if they fail ? Any warning signs, or will they and the
    whole engine fail out of the blue sky ?

    BTW: Great car, I like it quite a lot - Kudos to DCX and the folks at
    the lines in particular !!!
    Thor, Feb 17, 2004
  12. We don't know that. All that was posted (which you are calling "real
    information") was some anonymous individual claiming to have been at the
    plant and claiming to know what the nature of the alleged engine problem
    is. You may be prepared to take him/her at his/her word, but I certainly
    am not.
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 18, 2004

  13. The oil companies bought all of them. ( Wow, have not said/written
    that since the old HIGH MILEAGE Carburators stories.) Old myth/joke.
    Richard Benner Jr, Feb 18, 2004
  14. Derek

    Thor Guest

    In comparison to the not so real statement "engines Kaput", which btw
    should really read "engines Kaputt", the reference to the rod bolts
    sounds in fact much more real than most of the postings in this

    There is no preparedness on my side, I am not on a crusade or
    anything, just a happy Pacifica owner who is kind of surprised about
    the defensive attitude in this group :)

    In case there really is/was a problem with the bolts, they should have
    seen a number of surprises at the engine test beds, don´t they ?
    And yes, I agree with another poster in the group in that things like
    that can happen and it´s great to see that DCX halts the production
    and apparaently runs empty Pacifica carriers in Windsor while it is
    fixing the problem.

    If anybody knows anything more about the alledged 3.5l 24V Engine
    issues, please let us know - of course only if you can without
    releasing confidential company information ;)
    Thor, Feb 18, 2004
  15. You better learn to recognize real information. There's precious little
    in this post.

    Why would you have a TSB when the problem was found at the factory and
    is being fixed? This kind of concern is exactly what the OP wanted to
    induce and it appears he's now succeeded. Still not sure why he wants
    to trash his employer, assuming he even really works for Chyrsler, but
    he apparently has some axe to grind. And then people like him complain
    when the auto makers export their jobs.

    Matthew S. Whiting, Feb 19, 2004
  16. If you base veracity on how a statement sounds, then I feel sorry for you.

    What is defensive about objecting to unfounded rumors being posted which
    cause gullible people like you to worry about nothing?

    Matthew S. Whiting, Feb 19, 2004
  17. Derek

    Thor Guest

    Nice try - is that the discussion capability you've learned at
    Applebee's ?
    I feel your pain.
    Thanks for saving the world with your pointless rants and
    arrogant-aggressive posts.

    The tone in this group is really strange...
    .... and somehow so far away from the image and quality of todays DCX
    products, imho.

    Breathe deep, folks !
    Thor, Feb 19, 2004
  18. Derek

    Thor Guest


    There are many reasons why a TSB could emerge out of a newly
    discovered manufactuuring issue in case it has been around for a while
    - no need to speculate.

    But maybe you didn't get the point, so here are my questions again:

    * Is there really a (possible) engine issue with the Pacificas ?

    * Could this be a problem even with an engine/vehicle manufactured
    back in September 2003 ?

    * Is there anything that could be done about it, any check ?

    * Is there any warning sign ?

    In my eyes these are perfectly legitimate questions to ask for
    somebody owning a Pacifica. If posting them is too offensive for you,
    please feel free to just ignore them. What I am looking for is
    profound information and not just some shoot-the-messenger or some
    kill-the-inquirer-type of chitchat.
    Thor, Feb 19, 2004
  19. Derek

    Geoff Guest

    To you, maybe. A comment like that coming from a guy named "Thor" is what
    seems strange to me!
    What, you were expecting posts in broken English with a heavy German accent?
    Or were you somehow expecting to lose money with every one you read?


    pfft! Just checked out lol!
    Geoff, Feb 19, 2004
  20. Derek

    RWM Guest

    Crain's headline (2/16/2004):

    Bad bolts interrupt Pacifica output

    The Chrysler group is determining how many 2004 Chrysler Pacificas have faulty
    connecting rod engine bolts and whether any of the vehicles reached dealerships or
    customers. - 2004-02-16
    RWM, Feb 19, 2004
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