Oil 3.0 V6 again

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Hi!

I don't wanna start a new long discussion but I have no other sources
about my Plymouth Grand Voyager 1996. It has 3.0 V6 Mithubishi engine
and I use LPG. Considering Your ealier opinion I am very curious if use
of given oil depends on it's sticky because common mineral oils have
sticky value lower than not reccomended by You 10W-40 and synthetic ones
have higher value of sticky. There are common oils on my market:

sticky (depends on a producer)
Mineral oils: 15W-40 130-136

Semi: 10W-40 140-156

Synthetic: 0W30, 5W30, 155-168
0W40, 5W40, 10W-40 155-191

I'm going to use mineral one because it costs half than sythetic but if
several of You reccomend sythetic oils which have much more sticky than
minerals ones, I don't understant why You don't recomended the semi one?

And, if I use the mineral, Have I change it often? Mayby I should use
one of the sythetic's? I live in country where temperature in Winter is
about 0 - -10C (down to 10F) but oridinary about (15F) lately and in
wummer up to 30C (86F). Mayby next year I will go to the south Europe
where temperature can be up to 40C (104F) - about 5 tys. miles trip.

Can You precisely answers my questions?

Yours Sincerely,

proxy
 
proxy said:
Hi!

I don't wanna start a new long discussion but I have no other sources
about my Plymouth Grand Voyager 1996. It has 3.0 V6 Mithubishi engine
and I use LPG. Considering Your ealier opinion I am very curious if use
of given oil depends on it's sticky because common mineral oils have
sticky value lower than not reccomended by You 10W-40 and synthetic ones
have higher value of sticky. There are common oils on my market:

sticky (depends on a producer)
Mineral oils: 15W-40 130-136

Semi: 10W-40 140-156

Synthetic: 0W30, 5W30, 155-168
0W40, 5W40, 10W-40 155-191

I'm going to use mineral one because it costs half than sythetic but if
several of You reccomend sythetic oils which have much more sticky than
minerals ones, I don't understant why You don't recomended the semi one?

And, if I use the mineral, Have I change it often? Mayby I should use
one of the sythetic's? I live in country where temperature in Winter is
about 0 - -10C (down to 10F) but oridinary about (15F) lately and in
wummer up to 30C (86F). Mayby next year I will go to the south Europe
where temperature can be up to 40C (104F) - about 5 tys. miles trip.

Can You precisely answers my questions?

Yours Sincerely,

proxy
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What is "sticky?" I've never heard that term used with respect to oil.
What is the source of your figures? And why are you afraid to use
your real name?

Matt
 
I mean it's density, ok.

And my Real name is Jaromir Kira from Poland, I 've just not used it in
the signature, it's all.

proxy
 
Ok. I mean the parameter of oil which depends on it's signature and I
have not found it in my dictionary. I think it is a viscosity. Yes,
visconsity will be ok. Sorry, for a mistake.

proxy
 
proxy said:
Ok. I mean the parameter of oil which depends on it's signature and I
have not found it in my dictionary. I think it is a viscosity. Yes,
visconsity will be ok. Sorry, for a mistake.

proxy
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Neither density nor viscosity have much to do with being sticky.
Doesn't sound like you know much about oil.


Matt
 
You haven't understand. It is about the same term, word. Look at oils
parameters and You will be know what I am talking about even if I used
bad word-name because I am not living in Great America, man!

proxy

P.S. Probably I should change my dictionary? ;)
 
proxy said:
Hi!

I don't wanna start a new long discussion but I have no other sources
about my Plymouth Grand Voyager 1996.
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Jaromir, as you probably know, regardless of the brand or
type oil you decide to use, it should have a viscosity
rating approved by the manufacturer of your car. That being
the case, in general, you should use the thinnest oil that
will *properly* lubricate your engine. As far as the
mineral oil vs. synthetic debate goes, synthetic oil is
superior in every way. It protects better, lasts longer and
flows better at cold temperatures. Synthetic oil also uses
less modifiers to achieve its "multi" viscosity rating than
mineral oils. Considering your climate, the ability of
synthetic oil to flow better than mineral oil is important.
To illustrate the difference conduct the following
experiment. Buy a quart of mineral oil and a quart of
synthetic oil with the *same* viscosity rating (e.g., 5W30).
Set them outside over night. The next morning bring the oil
inside and pour some from each bottle into a paper cup. You
will see that the synthetic oil pours much more freely than
the mineral oil even though it has the same viscosity
rating. My recommendation? Synthetic, of course.

Happy motoring,

Al Phillips
 
Neither density nor viscosity have much to do with being sticky.
Doesn't sound like you know much about oil.


Matt
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Matt, translating from Polish is NOT easy - He's using a dictionary.
English is not his language.
 
clare said:
Matt, translating from Polish is NOT easy - He's using a dictionary.
English is not his language.
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I appreciate that, but the rest of his post didn't make much sense even
if you replace sticky with either viscosity or density.


Matt
 
what is "wummer"?
Can You precisely answers my questions?

why in the hell does a pollock like you have our good american synthetic oil
available?
Can You precisely answers my questions?
 
God said:
what is "wummer"?
Can You precisely answers my questions?

why in the hell does a pollock like you have our good american synthetic oil
available?
Can You precisely answers my questions?
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Why don't you **** off asshole.

Smuga
Just another "pollock"
 
I think Matt and Mr. "God" should be required to compose a 100 word post
in Polish, and then be publicly critiqued and ridiculed by Polish
language experts.

Bill Putney
(to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with "x")
 
Bill Putney said:
I think Matt and Mr. "God" should be required to compose a 100 word post
in Polish, and then be publicly critiqued and ridiculed by Polish
language experts.
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They'd probably struggle to complete the assignment in English, never mind
Polish.
 
Bill said:
I think Matt and Mr. "God" should be required to compose a 100 word post
in Polish, and then be publicly critiqued and ridiculed by Polish
language experts.
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Associating me with the idiot making the Polish slur is offensive, Bill.
I questioned the man's knowledge about oil, but I didn't come even
close to making a racial slur to him, nor would I ever do it. I expect
an apology from you.


Matt
 
Matthew S. Whiting said:
Associating me with the idiot making the Polish slur is offensive, Bill.
I questioned the man's knowledge about oil, but I didn't come even
close to making a racial slur to him, nor would I ever do it. I expect
an apology from you.

Matt
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You're right. While I thought you were a little hard on him but
slightly within the bounds of reasonableness (and certainly normal for
you) 8^) , what you posted does not compare with the other poster's
comments. The comments by the other poster aside, I guess my point was
that it's hard enough composing something in an unfamiliar language and
at the same time making technical sense (assuming something doesn't get
lost in the translation) - i.e. you could have cut the guy a little
slack.

My sincere apologies (and not just the Pete Rose type of apology).

Bill Putney
(to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with "x")
 
Soars said:
...As far as the
mineral oil vs. synthetic debate goes, synthetic oil is
superior in every way...
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I'm certainly nothing approaching an expert in this area, but I remember
reading that there is one particular area in which non-synthetic is
better than synthetic. I don't recall which characteristic that is, but
IIRC it is either in piston scuffing or film retention properties (I
believe that one of the results of long-term use of pure synthetic oil
noticed in the tear-downs is significant piston scuffing). It was also
stated that that is the reason that a blend may not be a bad idea - get
all the benefits with little compromise of the better properties of
both.

Bill Putney
(to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with "x")
 
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Matthew S. Whiting said:
Associating me with the idiot making the Polish slur is offensive, Bill.
I questioned the man's knowledge about oil, but I didn't come even
close to making a racial slur to him, nor would I ever do it. I expect
an apology from you.
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Racial slur? Do you really think that Polish people are their own race???
What race do you think Polish people are?
 
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Racial slur? Do you really think that Polish people are their own race???
What race do you think Polish people are?
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By the workaholic tendancies shown by my good friend and neighbor, the
polish proffessor, I'd say the "rat race".
Real nice guy too.
 
Try to be patient with people who struggle with English.

You'd be surprised how difficult it can be!

How's your Polish? Oder wie ist Ihr Deutsch, ou votre Francais?

DAS
 
Jin Dobre (sorry about spelling -- read as if English).

What does your local dealer and/or independent garage suggest?

With a vehicle that new I would go for the appropriate synthetic oil,
possible semi-synthetic if recommended by the dealer/manufacturer.

Do you have the original manual (instruction book)?

DAS
 
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