NEW 2005 Sebring console shift indicators - lights? - key codes

[Mr.X]

So I got my 05 touring last week the one thing I noticed is while the
dash instrument display has what gear I'm in displayed, the small
round markers on the console next to the shift lever do NOT light up.

is this normal or do I add this to the list on my first service
visit., so far it's the fist thing on the list.


key codes:

I did not receive the 4 digit pin code for keys noted anywhere on the
documents, as per the owners manual page 11 "replacement keys" "at
time of purchase original owner is provided with a 4 digit PIN number"

I find a packet in my glove compartment that most likely held the
keys , it has 3 rows on it first starts with a M the rest are
digits , such as :

M123

2345

4567


do I harass the dealer or does someone here know

the code is only used if you don't have 2 keys already learned by the
computer


thanks for any reply

 

[maxpower]

So I got my 05 touring last week the one thing I noticed is while the
dash instrument display has what gear I'm in displayed, the small
round markers on the console next to the shift lever do NOT light up.



is this normal or do I add this to the list on my first service
visit., so far it's the fist thing on the list.

Take that off your list, if it shows on the dash it wont on the console

key codes:

I did not receive the 4 digit pin code for keys noted anywhere on the
documents, as per the owners manual page 11 "replacement keys" "at
time of purchase original owner is provided with a 4 digit PIN number"

The 4 digit key code does you no good, if you need to get a key cut/replaced
it has to be done at the dealer and the dealer has to program the key, the
dealer will get the skim code number from the vin# of your vehicle thru
Chryslers data center. If you want the code ask them.

I find a packet in my glove compartment that most likely held the
keys , it has 3 rows on it first starts with a M the rest are
digits , such as :

M123

2345

4567

LOL The first number is the key code number (the way it is cut) the second
one is either the valet key cut or "the skim code key number you say you
dont have" or the 3rd number is the skim code key. Now that you posted your
secret key code number for all to see on here, can we get your SS# too?

do I harass the dealer or does someone here know

By all means, harass them with this information you just posted

the code is only used if you don't have 2 keys already learned by the
computer


thanks for any reply

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech (dealer)

 

[Mr.X]

Take that off your list, if it shows on the dash it wont on the console

The 4 digit key code does you no good, if you need to get a key cut/replaced
it has to be done at the dealer and the dealer has to program the key, the
dealer will get the skim code number from the vin# of your vehicle thru
Chryslers data center. If you want the code ask them.

LOL The first number is the key code number (the way it is cut) the second
one is either the valet key cut or "the skim code key number you say you
dont have" or the 3rd number is the skim code key. Now that you posted your
secret key code number for all to see on here, can we get your SS# too?

By all means, harass them with this information you just posted

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech (dealer)

Thanks for the info.

now what does "skim" stand for ?

and this is the first I've heard of "valet" keys, like that would
not open the trunk and center console?

fyi my ss# is 234-56-7890

thaks again

 

[Mr.X]

Take that off your list, if it shows on the dash it wont on the console

OK no lights at all . all buttons are dark and not lighted. no lamps
in there at all. ok got it

 

[maxpower]

Thanks for the info.

now what does "skim" stand for ?

Sentry Key immobilizer system

and this is the first I've heard of "valet" keys, like that would
not open the trunk and center console?

Not sure about the one code being a valet key, I do know that one is for the
SKIM and the M# is the code to acually cut it

 

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

LOL The first number is the key code number (the way it is cut) the second
one is either the valet key cut or "the skim code key number you say you
dont have" or the 3rd number is the skim code key. Now that you posted your
secret key code number for all to see on here, can we get your SS# too?

Oh come on. The chipped keys do only ONE thing - prevent an amateur
car thief from running up and smashing the window and pounding a chisel
into the ignition keyhole and starting the car and driving it off. They are
useless against a professional who is going to run up in his tow truck and
drive off with the car, then part it out. And while we might have some
amateur
car thieves reading this NG, the OP didn't post his address for them to find
his car.

Ted

 

[MoPar Man]

The chipped keys do only ONE thing - prevent an amateur
car thief from running up and smashing the window and pounding
a chisel into the ignition keyhole and starting the car and
driving it off.

Which we'll call thief type 1.

They are useless against a professional who is going to
run up in his tow truck and drive off with the car,
then part it out.

Which we'll call thief type 2.

Now you tell me which type of thief is more likely to approach a
typical Chrysler vehicle and burgle it?

If I had to choose between Sentry Key or an effective way to prevent a
type-2 theft, hands down I'd choose Sentry Key.

Now if I had a car worth $100k I'd expect to have both.

 

[maxpower]

Oh come on. The chipped keys do only ONE thing - prevent an amateur
car thief from running up and smashing the window and pounding a chisel
into the ignition keyhole and starting the car and driving it off. They are
useless against a professional who is going to run up in his tow truck and
drive off with the car, then part it out. And while we might have some
amateur
car thieves reading this NG, the OP didn't post his address for them to find
his car.

Chill out. that was just a little humor, so was asking for his SS#

The average vehicle stolen is by amaters, they break in , punch out the
lock and it starts and stalls, minimal damage and low cost to the insurance
company

Instaead of gettting a stripped down vehicle to repair, we get the vehicle
back that needs an ignition switch or maybe a column

 

[maxpower]

Which we'll call thief type 1.


Which we'll call thief type 2.

Now you tell me which type of thief is more likely to approach a
typical Chrysler vehicle and burgle it?

If I had to choose between Sentry Key or an effective way to prevent a
type-2 theft, hands down I'd choose Sentry Key.

Now if I had a car worth $100k I'd expect to have both.

Exactly!!

 

[Dennis]

Glenn, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the owners manual have the
procedure for programming the third and forth key into the car? (Ignition
on/off etc.)
And can't any key smith (not just the dealer) cut the blank?
And the blanks sold on eBay work just fine?

My neighbor bought a blank off eBay and had the dealer cut it (as it was
convenient). To save money, he programmed it into the car a couple of
weekends ago. Did he do something wrong? Was the dealer supposed to do
something else he didn't know about (seems to work OK)?

It was my understanding that an owner can program up to four keys (*if* he
has both originals) and key fobs himself. Am I mistaken?

 

[maxpower]

Glenn, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the owners manual have the
procedure for programming the third and forth key into the car? (Ignition
on/off etc.)

That can only be done if it is a domestic vehicle or has a U.S country code
designator. You would have to have at least two valid sentry keys to do it

And can't any key smith (not just the dealer) cut the blank?

Any lock smith can cut the key, Some are able to program them if they have
the correct equipment (however, I tried to get a hardware store to cut one
for me and I was going to program it, they said they couldnt because it
would damage there computerized key cutter) I dont know if that was a blow
off or if it was true, I never got it cut.

And the blanks sold on eBay work just fine?

Cant answer that.

My neighbor bought a blank off eBay and had the dealer cut it (as it was
convenient). To save money, he programmed it into the car a couple of
weekends ago. Did he do something wrong? Was the dealer supposed to do
something else he didn't know about (seems to work OK)?

If he did something wrong the vehicle would not have started.

It was my understanding that an owner can program up to four keys (*if* he
has both originals) and key fobs himself. Am I mistaken?

Im not sure how many keys you get when you buy a vehicle now days, I think
the Pacifica,Crossfire and Caravan issues one, dont quote me on that cause
im not sure.

 

[Mr.X]

That can only be done if it is a domestic vehicle or has a U.S country code
designator. You would have to have at least two valid sentry keys to do it


Any lock smith can cut the key, Some are able to program them if they have
the correct equipment (however, I tried to get a hardware store to cut one
for me and I was going to program it, they said they couldnt because it
would damage there computerized key cutter) I dont know if that was a blow
off or if it was true, I never got it cut.


Cant answer that.

If he did something wrong the vehicle would not have started.

Im not sure how many keys you get when you buy a vehicle now days, I think
the Pacifica,Crossfire and Caravan issues one, dont quote me on that cause
im not sure.

As the OP :

1: chill is right , those codes I gave out were in sequence 2345 ..
not the real ones ..

2 ) I got 2 keys with the sebring and I originally wrote

the code is only used if you don't have 2 keys already learned by the
computer

notice ""don't""

as per the owners manual if you have 2 the computer has already
learned you can add 6 more that are cut only, the digital ID of
the 6 can be learned with out any PIN or interface.


I had 2 non- Sentry keys cut right away to carry in the wallet and
one for the wife to open the door if I lock the keys in.. $ 3
Per the Locksmith with the equipment to add a key
(if I only had one ) they no longer make the plastic keys of OLD to
carry in the wallet.

he wanted $75 to add a key using the PIN and 1 key to copy from


or , $30 to provide and cut a Senty key which I will get to make
sure I always have access to 2 learned keys

again thanks for all the info

 

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

Which we'll call thief type 1.


Which we'll call thief type 2.

Now you tell me which type of thief is more likely to approach a
typical Chrysler vehicle and burgle it?

If I had to choose between Sentry Key or an effective way to prevent a
type-2 theft, hands down I'd choose Sentry Key.

Now if I had a car worth $100k I'd expect to have both.

You totally missed the point. I'm not arguing the above. I'm saying
that type 1 thief isn't on this news group and even if he was he's too
stupid to find out where the OP's Chrysler is let alone take the key codes
posted and make a key then go steal the OP's car.

Ted

 

[damnnickname]

Thats why I said just a little humor. I saw the numbers in sequence

 

[tim bur]

if you can look ahead to see what gear you are in why would u take your
eyes off the road to shift gears by having a indictor on the
shifter?????????????

 

[Mr.X]

if you can look ahead to see what gear you are in why would u take your
eyes off the road to shift gears by having a indictor on the
shifter?????????????

The way these buttons are made and mounted in the console it led me
to believe they should light up. Now for a new driver of a
console shift , being used to a column mounted shift one DOES
look down at first to see the gear , All console gear shifts I know
of have the gear marked on the console. these days all seem to also
have the instrument panel display.

not so much as the selected gear will light in the console buttons ,
just that the buttons should all light

 

[Mr.X]

So I get a Subaru Forester as a loaner to for 1st scheuled service at
3 months and guess what the console indicator lights up and well as
the instrument panel has the selected gear indicated.



after 4 months old and 950 miles use , went in for the dealer
service since the 6 month 6k service schedule has conditions
impossible for any one to meet.

 

[James C. Reeves]

Interesting.

I have a 04 Sebring with the "auto-stick". The shift indicators *do* light
up, although it's still difficult to tell what gear the shifter is in. You
need to look at the dash display for that.

The wife has a 03 Stratus that doesn't have "auto-stick". Thise indicators
do *NOT* light up.

Perhaps the indicator lights have something to do with the tranny option?

 

[Ted R]

It was one of the things I complained about as well.
I had a 99 Stratus and the console indicator lit up as well as the power
window buttons.
In my 2003 Sebring the console does not light up nor do the power window and
locks buttons.
There was also NO light in the glove compartment.

It was one of those silly things I did not notice when test driving the car.
I have never seen a car with a glovebox light before !
Surely the cost of these light would not have made the car prohibitively
expenve.
It gave me the impression of the manufacturer being cheap and petty.