Modern Tires Ruin the Roads

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Nomen Nescio, Nov 26, 2005.

  1. Nomen Nescio

    Nomen Nescio Guest

    Pebbles catch in the fine sipes of modern tires and are carried in the
    tread. As the tire rolls, they abrade the roadways.

    Earlier tire designs use coarse zig-zag treads that cannot pick up small

    Car manufacturers should specify tire tread designs that do no degrade the
    roads. Only rubber compound should contact the roadways.
    Nomen Nescio, Nov 26, 2005
  2. uhh... no!
    Backyard Mechanic, Nov 26, 2005
  3. Nomen Nescio

    Hairy Guest

    True...they only picked up larger rocks.

    I'll bet you lay awake at night dreaming up this crap.
    Hairy, Nov 26, 2005
  4. Nomen Nescio

    Guest Guest

    You are NUTS. If you are driving in icy/snowy conditions, the finely
    siped tire is a NECESSITY. If you have STUDS, that is (possibly) a
    different story. Carbide studs damage the road, particularly if you
    spin the tires. Nylon studs do minimal damage. Gravel stones, sand and
    pebbles????? NEVER.
    Guest, Nov 26, 2005
  5. Makes you wonder what he does for a living, consider the super-accurate
    speedo... sure hope no one pays him to be an analyst, of any sort.

    My bet he assists in election campaigns... strong link between denial,
    obfuscation, nit-picking and politics
    Backyard Mechanic, Nov 26, 2005
  6. Total contact of harder than pavement objects in tires = .001%
    The noise you hear from block treaded tires, opposed to those with fine
    tread designs is not simply incidental. Anything that generates energy -
    including sound energy- indicates 'work done' in the scientific sense.

    Since this involves the entire tread surface, not just the incidental
    pebble in maybe one of 10 tires rolling on that track, a case could be
    made that firmer, wider tread with blocks affects the surface more than
    the odd pebble.

    Finer siping, OTOH, provides more conformity and less abrading/scrubbing
    Since the whole concept is Bullshit, it will probably become a law,
    Backyard Mechanic, Nov 26, 2005
  7. Nomen Nescio

    Guest Guest

    Those modern tire provide much better all weather traction and save
    By the way I seldom see pebbles stuck in the tread of my Michelin
    Harmony all season tires.
    What inferior tires are you referring to.
    Guest, Nov 26, 2005
  8. ROTFL!!

    Ted Mittelstaedt, Nov 26, 2005
  9. Hey, this is first rate comedy! Better than Click and Clack!

    Ted Mittelstaedt, Nov 26, 2005
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    joe schmoe Guest

    Sunshine and rain do more damage.

    Ban the weather.
    joe schmoe, Nov 26, 2005
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    Coasty Guest

    May be they should start building roads out of recycled rubber from tires,
    then the roads could throw the stones back in retaliation.
    Coasty, Nov 26, 2005
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    Nate Nagel Guest

    I don't know where he's getting this from... IME old bias ply tire have
    far more "fine sipes" than the modern radials that I currently have on
    my cars (BFG T/A on one, Yoko ES100 on another, and some Goodyear
    all-season POS on a third)

    Nate Nagel, Nov 26, 2005
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    Andy & Carol Guest

    Ever wonder what happens to all the rubber from the tire threads
    as the tire wears out...millions and millions of tires......every day...year
    after year....
    Andy & Carol, Nov 26, 2005
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    Mike Hunter Guest

    Many think the government should pay for their health care and prescription
    drugs, and as long as the roads are wearing out anyway, they should make
    tires out of concrete and the roads out of rubber. Let government pay the
    bill rather than the car owners. LOL

    Mike Hunter, Nov 26, 2005
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    Coasty Guest

    The problem is we are the government.

    Remove The SPOOGE To Reply
    Coasty, Nov 26, 2005
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    Ice and road salt does far more damage to northern roads than does
    tires, sun, rain and pretty much everything else put together. Only a
    burning car is worse on the asphalt than ice and salt.

    Obviously, this doesn't apply to southern climes.

    Matt Whiting, Nov 26, 2005
  17. dream on!

    You can ELECT the guys who are gonna change things.. but if you leave
    them there long enuff, they all get the disease.

    Right now, All Ohio Republican national figures.. Senate and Governor are
    well beyond sell-by.

    Even a half-decent opponent and 'color 'em gone'!
    Backyard Mechanic, Nov 26, 2005
  18. Dunno about THAT, but there's no doubt that bias plies were far more
    destructive to secondary roads....

    Geezers, please think back to where every curve became rutted... due to
    tire resistance.
    Backyard Mechanic, Nov 26, 2005
  19. In my area there was a 750 foot portion of concrete built to interstate
    standards that lay dormant for 25 years... blocked off, it had no
    vehicular traffic, and negligible salt on it.
    It only had rain and freeze/thaw.

    By the time the roadway got extended, it was a broken up mess.. they had
    to tear it all up and lay new concrete.
    Backyard Mechanic, Nov 26, 2005
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    Mike Hunter Guest

    Tell that to those that want the government to provide all of those 'free'
    services ;)


    Mike Hunter, Nov 26, 2005
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