LH car engine swap

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Steve, Aug 8, 2005.

  1. Steve

    Steve Guest

    I've seen all the info about swapping a 2nd generation 3.5L v6 into a
    second-generation car that originally had a 2.7L v6.... but does anyone
    have any info on what it would take to swap a 2nd-gen 3.5 and transaxle
    into a FIRST generation (1993-up) LH car?

    Just curious at this point....
    Steve, Aug 8, 2005
  2. Just curious, eh, Steve? ;-)
    Daniel J. Stern, Aug 8, 2005
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    tim bur Guest

    engine wiring and trans wiring dash wiring and modules under the dash
    including anti theft modules
    tim bur, Aug 9, 2005
  4. Steve

    Bill Putney Guest

    I think this is what you're looking for - documented with photos. Looks
    like a real pain: http://www.dodgeintrepid.net/forums/showthread.php?t=45278

    Here's another thread that links to the first one:

    That second thread is probably not worth reading past the 5th post.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
    Bill Putney, Aug 9, 2005
  5. Steve

    Steve Guest

    <defensive mode>

    So what's it to ya? :p


    Yeah, just curious. I'm thinking ahead about options for replacing the
    wife's 93 Vision TSi. Its got 230,000 miles and is doing fine, but its
    no spring chicken anymore. One option is a used Magnum in another year
    or so, but I'm actually pretty concerned about the Magnum not having
    enough air-conditioining power (see another thread). The Vision is in
    great shape, and a complete engine/transaxle swap would replace almost
    all the wearing parts in one shot... and the idea of a 250HP first-gen
    LH car is definitely appealing :) If the cost and hassle is comparable
    to a total rebuild of the iron 3.5, consider me very tempted... :)
    Steve, Aug 9, 2005
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    David Guest

    Probably a big obstacle, would be the different wiring involved.
    David, Aug 9, 2005
  7. Steve

    Steve Guest

    I was hoping for a *tad* more detail... for example, will the later
    body-control module hook right up to the automatic climate control
    system? Will the engine controller drive the existing dash guages and
    idjit lights? A complete engine/trans "power egg" (to use a
    radial-engine airliner term) with controllers is no big deal, but the
    hassle might be the details like getting the guages and controls all
    working. Any theft modules would be summarily discarded- don't have 'em,
    don't want 'em.
    Steve, Aug 9, 2005
  8. Steve

    Steve Guest

    Somehow, I KNEW you'd have a link :)

    Looks like those guys are making it too hard- trying to reuse too much
    first-gen stuff rather than using as much second-gen stuff as possible.
    Not simple, but certainly doable...
    Steve, Aug 9, 2005
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    Art Guest

    Where did you read that the Magnum ac is inadequate? I've never heard that
    complaint before and that would be a real problem for me, since I am still
    considering getting one.
    Art, Aug 9, 2005
  10. Steve

    Steve Guest

    I did not read it, I EXPERIENCED it. Two Magnum rentals (admittedly
    lower-end cars, one with the wimpy 2.7 the other with the surprisingly
    adequate 3.5) had useless A/C systems. One of them (the 3.5) was in Los
    Angeles and not really put to the test because the outside temp never
    got over 80, but the 2.7 was in Iowa during the recent heat wave and I
    had to keep it on "max" all the time and it STILL didn't blow cold
    enough to suit me. The 93 Vision (or my '66 Polara, or my '69 Coronet
    R/T) would have been blowing 35-38 degree air in similar conditions. I
    didn't have a thermometer on me, but I'd be surprised if the Magnum was
    blowing as cold as 40 degrees, more like 45, even on Max. Not near
    enough A/C power for that size car.

    My hope, and I need to confirm it, is that the auto-temp A/C on a
    higher-end Magnum like an R/T is more potent. This would cross the
    Magnum off the potential car list for me.
    Steve, Aug 9, 2005
  11. Steve

    Art Guest

    It seems to me that the ducts are much bigger on the Magnum than my 300M so
    although I noticed the air wasn't blowing quite as cold during a test drive
    I figured that the total volume coming from the bigger ducts explained the
    warmer temperature of the blowing air. But the test drive wasn't long enuf
    to be sure the car could be cooled in the hottest temperatures..
    Art, Aug 10, 2005
  12. Ruh? Why would you need to swap BCMs?
    Daniel J. Stern, Aug 10, 2005
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    tim bur Guest

    u need everything i stated nothing swaps/interchanges over
    tim bur, Aug 11, 2005
  14. Steve

    Steve Guest

    Exactly. Would you or wouldn't you? ;-) I presume you wouldn't, but I
    don't *know* that for a fact.
    Steve, Aug 15, 2005
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