keyless entry installation

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I have a 1998 Plymouth Breeze, base model with no power locks, and the
trunk release is the latch on the floor beside the driver's seat. Is
there any way to add a keyless entry system &/or a remote starter
system to this vehicle?
 
You need power locks to have keyless entry. A retrofit kit may be
available. If you have an automatic transmission, you can get a remote
starter.
 
Why do you need an automatic transmission to get a remote starter?
My daughter's car, with 5-speed manual, has an aftermarket remote start
system.
 
| Why do you need an automatic transmission to get a remote starter?
| My daughter's car, with 5-speed manual, has an aftermarket remote start
| system.

Usually because of the clutch/starter interlock which will only allow the
starter to engage when the clutch is depressed.
 
I'm human and this is usenet. I could be wrong and even if I'm not, someone
will make up ''facts'' to prove me otherwise. ;-) But every remote start
system I've seen says an automatic transmission is needed. Many even go
further to say that fuel injection is required as well.

Imagine having remote start on a vehicle with a manual transmission...and it
was parked in gear. It either won't attempt start due to a neutral safety
switch, it will attempt to start and screw up the starter and/or clutch, or
it will start and take off without a driver.

How is this remote starter installed on your daughter's car? How old is the
car? Will it start if the trans is left in gear? Does the vehicle start
without the clutch being depressed? Isn't it common that there is an
interlock so a vehicle won't start without the clutch being depressed?
 
i have been installingh remote starts for the better part of 15 years and i have
done 2 vehicles with a manual shift trans and both were also tied into the
parking brake so if the brake was off they would not start and i also asked both
customers to sign a waiver of liability regarding the fact the vehicle could
start in gear and cause personal harm even death to others and property damage
both people i knew and would npot do it for anyone else so it can be done but
99.9 of the installers won't do it
 
Steve Reinis said:
I'm human and this is usenet. I could be wrong and even if I'm not, someone
will make up ''facts'' to prove me otherwise. ;-) But every remote start
system I've seen says an automatic transmission is needed. Many even go
further to say that fuel injection is required as well.

Imagine having remote start on a vehicle with a manual transmission...and it
was parked in gear. It either won't attempt start due to a neutral safety
switch, it will attempt to start and screw up the starter and/or clutch, or
it will start and take off without a driver.

How is this remote starter installed on your daughter's car? How old is the
car? Will it start if the trans is left in gear? Does the vehicle start
without the clutch being depressed? Isn't it common that there is an
interlock so a vehicle won't start without the clutch being depressed?
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A lot of manual remote starters have a procedure to ensure that you leave it
in gear. It would be something like: Put car in neutral, hit a button and
remove key, engine keeps running. Get out of the car, lock the door / arm
alarm via remote. This will lock the doors and shut the engine off. This way
you are outside away from the car before the doors lock, with the engine
running, so it must be in neutral. You could probably install a sensor to
determine if it is in Neutral as well.
 
Mike Behnke said:
But don't forget to set the parking brake!!!!
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You'd notice the car start to creep when you take your foot of the brake.
Unless it was a perfectly flat area. But setting the p-brake should be
habit, especially in a manual. But I'm sure it would be possible to require
the parking brake to be set.
 
It's a lot easier to imagine remote starting a manual transmission car than
a car with a carburetor. As you mentioned, remote starting a manual
transmission car would absolute guarantee you'd be starting it with the
clutch out, clutch start switch bypassed (if applicable). This is pretty
much dangerous as a cocked pistol, but the car could be started. So it
depends on what you mean by "needed". On an automatic car, you get the
starter interlocked to tranny "park" position for free. On a manual car, you
have to defeat interlocks, and then your car is going to drive off on its
own. Maybe not the first day, but some day. There is no way that any of us
would be consistent enough to leave it out of gear every day forever.
 
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