Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7 Hemi in UK

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dori A Schmetterling, May 29, 2005.

  1. Here is a review in today's UK Sunday Times of the new Jeep Grand Cherokee.

    http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,12929-1630542,00.html

    I have reproduced the article below my signature for convenience.

    What do you think? Agree/disagree, bearing in mind the European context?

    DAS

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    New Cars

    May 29, 2005

    Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7 Hemi
    By Ray Hutton of The Sunday Times
    All-American muscle power



    When it first came to Britain nine years ago,
    the Jeep Grand Cherokee was a credible alternative to the Range Rover - then
    as now king of the 4x4s - at a price lower than the Land Rover Discovery's.
    A lot has happened to SUVs since then. BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Volvo and
    Volkswagen have entered the fray and the Range Rover and the Discovery are
    now superior new models.
    So the new Grand Cherokee has a different task
    to perform. These vehicles no longer sell on their ability to cross deserts
    and mountain ranges but Jeep, like Land Rover, insists on making SUVs that
    can cope with extreme conditions: off-road supremacy is a badge of office.
    Even so, Jeep can't afford to ignore the fact that today's 4x4s need also to
    be as smooth as a premium saloon on normal roads.

    For Jeep, there is a further complication: it
    is part of the DaimlerChrysler group, which also makes Mercedes. This means
    that the Grand Cherokee is destined to be an understudy for the new Mercedes
    ML, with which it shares its 3 litre V6 diesel engine.



    But this is where the high-performance 5.7
    litre petrol V8 Hemi engine comes in ("hemi" referring to the now-common
    hemispherical combustion chamber that is part of Chrysler's heritage).


    It represents something that Mercedes can't
    offer: good old-fashioned American muscle.

    The V8 produces 322bhp and propels the hefty
    Jeep to 60mph in 6.8sec and to a maximum of 130mph. A sharp prod on the
    throttle produces a wonderful roar that makes it seem even faster. And
    although it has a clever (and barely detectable) system for deactivating
    four of its eight cylinders when not required, such as cruising at low
    speed, it still drinks unleaded at an embarrassing rate. The official urban
    fuel consumption is 13.3mpg.

    The car comes with satellite navigation,
    tyre-pressure monitoring, park assistance, automatic wipers and memory
    seats, all for £37,995, which happens to be the same list price as the Land
    Rover Discovery V8 S with a 295bhp engine - the Jeep's direct competitor.
    The Disco is still the class leader, though the cheapest automatic version
    you can buy costs £33,490 and that will be undercut from July by the £29,495
    Jeep 3.0 CRD.

    Jeep devotees will notice improvements all
    round for the new model, although the boxier styling, with narrower windows
    and round headlamps, may not receive universal praise. Six inches longer and
    with a 2.5in wider track than its predecessor, the Grand Cherokee now has
    independent front suspension and rack-and-pinion steering, which make for a
    more comfortable ride and better on-road handling.

    Cars for the UK market, which are assembled in
    Austria, all have Quadra-Trac II, the most advanced four-wheel-drive system
    Jeep has offered, with three electronically controlled differentials,
    low-range gears for mud-plugging, and electronic stability control.


    Because it still has a rigid "live" axle at
    the rear, it is not able to soak up the bumps and uneven surfaces of British
    byways as well as the best of the competition, but the Grand Cherokee scores
    in quietness and refinement, making it a pleasant companion on a long
    journey. The new Mercedes diesel engine is, if anything, nicer in this
    application than in the ML, where it is combined with a fussy seven-speed
    automatic gearbox; all Grand Cherokees have a five-speed automatic.

    The quality and general appearance of the
    interior is better than before but the combination of textures and colours
    marks it as American - the plastic mouldings are hard, the leather (grey or
    khaki) shiny, some of the fittings just a bit crude. The Grand Cherokee
    seats only five but a high floor and short seat cushion mean that the rear
    passengers (particularly the one at the centre) have a less comfortable time
    than those in the front.

    Jeep has done what it had to do with its
    biggest and most expensive model: it is faster and sturdier than its
    predecessors. But SUVs have changed, and so have people's reasons for buying
    them. The new Grand Cherokee may just be the right car at the wrong time.

    VITAL STATISTICS

    Model Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7 Hemi Limited
    Engine type Eight cylinders, 5654cc petrol
    Power/Torque 322bhp @ 5000rpm, 369 lb ft @
    4000rpm
    Transmission Five-speed automatic, four-wheel
    drive
    Fuel/CO2 18.3 mpg (combined cycle), 366
    g/km
    Performance 0-60mph: 6.8sec / Top speed:
    130mph
    Price £37,995
    Verdict Back to the future: an SUV with
    real American muscle
    Rating 3/5

    THE OPPOSITION

    Model Porsche Cayenne S £43,738
    For Faster than the Hemi. Porsche sports car
    heritage
    Against Hard ride on the road and can't match
    Jeep off it

    Model Land Rover Discovery 3 V8 S £37,995
    For Looks the business. Air suspension and
    brilliant Terrain Response Control
    Against Seriously heavy, not close to Hemi
    performance
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, May 29, 2005
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  2. I think the writer either has a fantastic bead on what new car buyers use as
    criteria
    or is totally out of his gourd. Some of the choice lines in this review:

    Ah, at least we state our bias upfront so the reader knows this isn't even
    an
    attempt an an unbiased review..
    When has Jeep become a SUV?
    If you want smooth as a premium saloon why don't you just buy a premium
    saloon at
    a quarter the price and fuel consumption? Since when does a 4x4 need to be
    a plushmobile?
    If this is a selling point then he-men are no longer buying 4x4's, now it's
    girley-men. What
    a sad statement on the 4x4 crowd.
    Don'tcha mean good new-fashion American muscle? Old-fashioned American
    Muscle went away in 1973 and has never come back.
    Ah, yes, a 4x4 that can do 130Mph. I heard of tearing through the
    forest but this is rediculous. How about telling us about it's ability to
    crawl out of deep snow and bogs? Or that it has a decent frame that you
    can attach a winch to and pull stumps without the thing folding up and
    blowing off it's airbags?
    Yes, we need that - drown out all the noise of the birds and the wind out in
    nature,
    right. Hey, if I pound a hole into my muffler on my 81 Datsun 4 banger can
    I get
    that same wonderful roar too?
    How about the official off-road fuel consumption?
    What about off-road handling?

    Like I said, either the new Jeep buyers are on a completely different planet
    than
    this reviewer, or they are now all a bunch of girly-men and this writer has
    them
    nailed spot-on.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, May 30, 2005
    #2
  3. Most people (in western Europe, but I guess it applies to many in USA, esp
    in Calif which, ok ok, is not in the USA...) buy 4x4 to ferry their children
    from their townhouses across paved roads to their schools or their bales of
    hay from their Chelsea/Manhattan/Beverly Hills farms to their
    Harrods/Bloomingdales/Neiman-Marcus farms...

    Look at the new H3...At who is this aimed?

    A strong body of opinion holds that the Merc ML is a better off-roader than
    the BMW X5, but who cares? The X5 looks better...

    DAS

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    Dori A Schmetterling, Jun 1, 2005
    #3
  4. Men who have erectile dysfunctions and have to compensate with something I
    think...

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jun 2, 2005
    #4
  5. I would have thought that V-i-a-g-r-a and Ci@lis (as advertised in hundreds
    of my daily spam msgs) are cheaper and more effective... :)

    DAS

    For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, Jun 2, 2005
    #5
  6. Dori A Schmetterling

    Bill Putney Guest

    Except V-1-a-g-r-a makes you go blind. 4x4's don't do that.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')

     
    Bill Putney, Jun 2, 2005
    #6
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