Is this the place to find out about Eagle problems?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Wayne Lundberg, Sep 22, 2005.

  1. Is this the place to find help with Eagle problems?

    If so, will respond with a fairly detailed history from engine sputtering,
    to computer analysis saying one thing, to not solving the mystery.

    Wayne
     
    Wayne Lundberg, Sep 22, 2005
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  2. Go on ahead and post. Try to stick to the basics (what's the model, year,
    engine, transmission, emissions package and mileage, what're the symptoms,
    what's been tried unsuccessfully).
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Sep 22, 2005
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  3. Model Eagle Talon 2.1 engine esi
    Year 1995
    Tranny - stick, five speeds
    Emission ????
    Mileage 177,000 (engine was rebuilt about 5,000 miles ago)
    Symptoms: Lack of power, on normal streets, on freeways.
    Tried: Replaced idle motor, replaced fuel filter, replaced spark plugs and
    wires, check vacuum leaks, fixed them. Replaced air filter.
    Oxygen sensor shows up on the computer, there are two and both appear to be
    OK... this is the key suspect and will cost a bundle if so.
    Air sensor shows up on computer but we can't find it!

    Any help will get you a Tecate or Bohemia and two tacos de carne asada when
    you are in the neighborhood! (We are just north of the Tijuana border).

    Wayne
     
    Wayne Lundberg, Sep 22, 2005
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  4. Don't see a 2.1 in '95 on those. Sure it's not a 2.0?
    "Federal" or "California" emissions.
    OK, so a high-miles unit...
    Filter and spark plugs/wires were a good idea if they were old.
    Vacuum leaks fixed -- also good.
    O2 sensors are indeed a key suspect, especially if they are original to
    the car (not replaced with engine rebuild). Even if they were replaced
    when the car had half its present mileage, they're probably due. What do
    you mean when you say they "appear to be OK"? How did you check?
    Don't quite understand this. You're saying that a computer diagnostic
    check indicated the "air sensor" (charge air temp sensor?) is not working
    correctly, but you're unable to physically locate the sensor?
    mmMMMMmm...tacos de carne asada...
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Sep 22, 2005
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  5. Wayne Lundberg

    tudysmuck Guest

    On your 1995 EAGLE TALON, the SENSOR-AIR CHARGE is:

    UNDER HOOD, CENTER/REAR ENGINE AREA, MOUNTED IN REAR OF THE INTAKE
    MANIFOLD.
     
    tudysmuck, Sep 22, 2005
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  6. Wayne Lundberg

    tudysmuck Guest

    oh yea me tacos where you at ?
    san yisedo
    national city
    chula wanna

    k=no
     
    tudysmuck, Sep 22, 2005
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  7. Chula wanna!
    Thanks!
     
    Wayne Lundberg, Sep 22, 2005
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  8. Top posting for brevity. My mistake, it's a 2.0, and California emission.
     
    Wayne Lundberg, Sep 22, 2005
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  9. My son is taking your suggestions to his mechanic friend and will go over it
    and let me know what is happening. I will post here when I get anything.

    Thanks!

    Wayne
     
    Wayne Lundberg, Sep 22, 2005
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  10. Was the "rebuild" a top end/gasket job, a ring job, a full rebuild or what?
    Why was it rebuilt, due to a failure or due to poor performance like you are
    having now? It would be worthwhile to check the compression. Low compression
    would give you low power throughout the RPM range. I would also check that the
    timing is correct and that the timing advances when you hit the gas. Checking
    these two things pretty much rules out a rebuild-related problem.

    Otherwise it sounds like you are running rich or lean especially given that you
    are getting a O2 code thrown. To lack power without any noticeable "rich"
    smell or smoke, it would probably be lean. You got a good start replacing the
    fuel filter since that is a common culprit. You can hook up an inline fuel
    pressure gauge to make sure the pump and/or pressure regulator are working
    correctly. Aside from that, the various sensor inputs usually determine
    injector timing and pulse width, so things get fun from there.
     
    Ryan Underwood, Sep 24, 2005
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