Honda makes first hydrogen cars

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by jenneylist, May 30, 2009.

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    jenneylist Guest

    jenneylist, May 30, 2009
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    bllsht Guest

    "Japanese car manufacturer Honda has begun the first commercial
    production of a zero-emission, hydrogen fuel-cell powered vehicle."

    So, when is carbon dioxide an emission, and when is it not?

    "Analysis of the environmental impact of different fuel technologies
    has shown that the overall carbon dioxide emissions from hydrogen
    powered cars can be higher than that from petrol or diesel-powered
    bllsht, May 30, 2009
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    who Guest

    who, May 31, 2009
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Because to isolate the hydrogen, it takes more than you get out of the
    hydrogen in some other form of energy that could instead be used
    directly or indirectly to do the same thing (run a vehicle) for lower cost.

    IOW, there would be no savings on my buying and using a hydrogen vehicle
    unless someone (the gov't) were taking money out of everyone's pockets
    and giving it to me so I can pretend that I'm saving costs by driving a
    hydrogen vehicle. IOW - there are no cost or energy savings if the cost
    and energy analyses are done honestly (and they almost never are - else
    these things would never be done - except by ignorant and dishonest
    politicians and ignorant people who keep electing them).

    Let's see some energy balance formulas on what it costs in energy to
    generate the hydrogen.
    Bill Putney, May 31, 2009
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    News Guest

    New Secretary of Energy has panned hydrogen power and fuel cells.

    It's over.
    News, May 31, 2009
  6. Production of hydrogen is very energy-intensive. And then there is
    distribution and storage.

    A perpetual motion machine might be more realistic...;-)


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    Dori A Schmetterling, May 31, 2009
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