High RPM Idle after Timing Belt Change

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Mark3571, Jan 20, 2007.

  1. Mark3571

    Mark3571 Guest

    After changing the timing belt on a 2.5L V6 SOHC engine (1997 Chrysler
    Sebring Convertible) the engine starts but immediately goes to a
    redline fast rpm. I don't know where the engine can get the air to run
    that fast. I have capped off all the vacuum lines including the power
    brake vacuum, the one hooked to the PCV valve and duct taped the EGR
    intake on the upper intake manifold (plenum). I capped the throttle
    body intake with a aerosol can cap and duct tape; thus no air can go
    thru the throttle or thru the air bypass passage. Upper and lower
    intake manifold gaskets have been replaced. The intake manifolds
    appear to be flat and should seal with new gaskets. The washers around
    the fuel injectors are in place. Do I have a magic engine that runs
    without air?

    If I got the timing belt off 1 or 2 teeth, can air backflow thru the
    exhaust?

    Can a valve be stuck open?

    If I disconnect the MAP sensor and the temperature sensor for the
    intake manifold, the engine will not start. I would assume the
    computer won't open the fuel injectors without these sensors.

    I changed sparkplugs, wires, distributor cap and rotor at the same
    time. I screwed up and cross plugged 2 wires. The car actually ran
    with the crossed up spark plug wires and would go highway speed but was
    weak on power and the check engine light would flash on and off. At
    idle I could hear a sound that seemed as if gas was ignited in the
    exhaust system. The sound was more off a swoosh than a bang. The high
    rpm idle problem started after I corrected the cross spark plug wire
    problem.

    Any ideas?
     
    Mark3571, Jan 20, 2007
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  2. Mark3571

    Scrapper Guest

    could be the IAC....but should run just like it did before changing
    timing belt....good luck...
     
    Scrapper, Jan 20, 2007
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  3. Mark3571

    Mark3571 Guest

    I don't have a magic engine. The leak was thru the upper intake
    manifold to lower intake manifold gasket. Both manifolds appeared flat
    without any scratches or old gasket material. Liberal use of high
    temp, sensitive safe RTV cured the problem.

    In hind sight I realize I had a small leak before as the idle was too
    rough. Once I fixed the leak the car would not idle with out holding
    the throttle open. After a few minutes it would idle again. I think
    the computer had to relearn the correct idle air position. The air
    bypass passage was probably closed due to the previous leak and had to
    relearn that it needed to open some in order to idle.

    The engine runs good now. If only that transmission ran as well.
    After 170,000 miles I guess I shouldn't expect it to be perfectly
    smooth.

    Mark
     
    Mark3571, Jan 23, 2007
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  4. Mark3571

    Mark3571 Guest

    Thanks for the reply Scrapper.

    At first I thought it could be the IAC, but I blocked off the whole
    throttle body intake including the IAC bypass passage with duct tape
    and a aerosol can cap. I didn't see how any air could get by that
    inlet.

    This helped me eventually identify the gasket as the leak.

    Mark
     
    Mark3571, Jan 23, 2007
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