Getting my car going after long break

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by A-Man, Jan 21, 2006.

  1. A-Man

    A-Man Guest

    Hi all,

    Just wondering what the best method is of starting a car that's been
    sitting for around 6 months. The engine is a 265 hemi in a 1970
    valiant. Obviously I'm gonna need to charge the battery (at the very
    least if not replace it) but apart from that I was worried about any
    damage that might occur if I just crank the old girl over as normal.


    Any thought/ideas appreciated.


    Cheers

    A.
     
    A-Man, Jan 21, 2006
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    Untermensch Guest

    Change the oil, and the fuel.
    Squirt some fresh fuel down the carby throat and give it a kick.
    You may be surprised as to how well she kicks over, I have been with my
    valiant.
     
    Untermensch, Jan 21, 2006
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    TJ Guest

    Could also squirt some oil in the combustion chamber via the spark plug
    holes although I don't it's of much value anyway.
     
    TJ, Jan 21, 2006
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  4. Probably a good idea to spin the thing on the starter with nil sparks
    for a little while.
    Maybe even remove the plugs if that's at all easy to do.
    The idea is to get an oil film going before combustion pressures start
    snapping about the place.
     
    Toby Ponsenby, Jan 21, 2006
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    If you really need to recreate the oil film (frankly, my guess would
    be nothing needs to be done here but to turn the key), then use a
    hand drill to turn the oil pump and build up some pressure and turn
    the crank over by hand a few times.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Jan 21, 2006
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    Noddy Guest

    If the battery needs charging, then do so. Then, open door, turn key, crank
    engine until is starts .

    6 months of sitting around is nothing.
     
    Noddy, Jan 21, 2006
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    budgie Guest

    I'd certainly endorse that. Also ensures you have nice full oil galleries.
    now THAT I'd like to see you do
     
    budgie, Jan 21, 2006
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  8. Done it with my Rangie V8, piece of plastic pipe in the drill chuck with a
    nail across the end shoved down the dizzy hole, tried it for a bit before I
    remembered pommy stuff goes anti clockwise :)
     
    Rainbow Warrior, Jan 21, 2006
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    Clockmeister Guest

    Just start as normal.

    If it's a decent car you might want to squirt a bit of oil or CRC down the
    carb before starting, but I wouldn't bother in most cases unless it's been
    left outside for the whole time.

    Consider changing the oil and filter once you have taken it for a drive to
    warm it up.
     
    Clockmeister, Jan 21, 2006
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    budgie Guest

    Ya need a reversing drill ;)

    It'd be a challenge with my VL, where the pump rotor is a "ring' around the
    front end of the crankshaft. Now, how to get a drill to drive the crank ....

    I wonder how many other contemporary vehicles use the vintage
    "dizzy_on_top_and_oil_pump_underneath" system.
     
    budgie, Jan 21, 2006
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  11. I did and it worked a treat. :)
     
    Rainbow Warrior, Jan 21, 2006
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    I'm not familiar with the 265. But on the American engines, you can
    take out the distributor, put an adapter on a portable drill (just for
    clarity, when I said a "hand drill" I meant an electric drill you hold
    in your hand, not a hand-powered drill), and use this to spin the oil
    pump. Isn't this possible with the Australian engines?
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Jan 21, 2006
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  13. Six months? Absolutely no big deal. Get in and start it!
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jan 21, 2006
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    Art Guest

    I was thinking the same thing. New cars sit on dealer lots far longer
    sometimes. Think of the Pontiac Aztek.
     
    Art, Jan 21, 2006
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  15. No, of course it's not. Remember: They're in the Southern Hemisphere.
    Think about it, you couldn't oil-prime the engine this way just as water
    spirals the opposite way down the drain.

    (Of course, I'm teasing you. It's actually because on the Hemi-6, just as
    on the US-designed slant-6, the "spin it with a drill" technique is not
    possible. The oil pump and the distributor each has its own pinion
    driven directly by a single worm cut into the camshaft.)

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jan 21, 2006
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Ideally you would use the drill to get the pressure up and the galleys
    full. *Then* you'd continue running the drill while someone cranked the
    engine over for a few seconds with the starter - that's to be sure the
    oil completely makes the circuit thru bearings that may be ported (i.e.,
    oil flow blocked when mating parts are in certain positions - not sure
    if that is the case on any bearings, but just in case...). Then put the
    distributor back in and crank her up.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jan 21, 2006
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    Clockmeister Guest

    They get started daily.
     
    Clockmeister, Jan 21, 2006
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    A-Man Guest

    LOL ;-)
    Thanks to everyone for all the helpful (and fast) replies. I'll get it
    going in the next week or so, bring it to operating temp and then change
    the oil+filter.

    Cheers again,

    A.
     
    A-Man, Jan 22, 2006
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  19. No, don't, you'll be happier.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jan 22, 2006
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    Ken Weitzel Guest

    Hi...

    Guess I'm a bit over protective, and perhaps wasting my time,
    but even after an oil and filter change I like to crank it
    over disabled a dozen times 'till the filter fills and pressure
    comes up.

    Haven't had the opportunity to try it on Chrysler yet, but with
    GM's you can watch for the oil light to extinguish when it gets
    there.

    Take care.

    Ken
     
    Ken Weitzel, Jan 22, 2006
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