Gas Tank Fill Location All Wrong

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by George Orwell, Nov 14, 2007.

  1. Have you taken notice that some cars have the gas fill opening on the
    driver's side and others have it located on the passenger's side? Either
    way, there is only one way you can drive up to the pumps. The pump's
    transfer hose must be on the side of the gas fill opening. This is
    inconvenient at a busy gas station where your available spot may not fit
    your car's configuration. Today's gas pumps have short hoses that cannot
    reach around to the opposite side of your car.

    A long time ago, some cars were fitted with a central, rear-bumper location
    for universal gas fill, under the license plate. That location is
    considered unsafe today.

    My suggestion is that all cars be fitted with TWO gas fill access, one on
    the left rear quarter panel and the other on the right. Then, you could
    drive up to a gas pump from either direction and pump gas.

    Sure, it will cost a few dollars to add this feature, but so what? The
    dozens of added features to cars already cost and nobody's complaining. At
    least, this suggestion makes good sense, more sense than many costly
    features that do little or nothing for comfort or safety: radio controls on
    the steering wheel, for example. Cars now cost 10 times what they used to
    within the lifetime of people still in the workforce, so I say, so what if
    a two-way gas filler costs an extra $5 or $10 to the auto maker and
    translated into $10 or $20 more retail?


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    George Orwell, Nov 14, 2007
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  2. Your only hope is to move to New Jersey where the State requires gas station
    attendants fill the car for you.

    Bill
     
    Bill Kitterman, Nov 15, 2007
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  3. George Orwell

    Chevy Man Guest

    One reason I know of for position of gas filler location is the exhaust
    pipe. Seams not many people want to pump their gas over top of a hot exhaust
    pipe when it is overfilled or leaks it could cause an explosion or
    fire.Guess they could move all exhaust to middle of the car. ; )
     
    Chevy Man, Nov 15, 2007
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  4. Have you ever tried that? Not gonna happen, even with the car still
    running, which is against the law...
     
    My Name Is Nobody, Nov 15, 2007
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  5. George Orwell

    Tim J. Guest

    I drive a P71 Crown Vic which has dual exhausts. So I guess I
    shouldn't have a fill spot on either side, huh?
     
    Tim J., Nov 15, 2007
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  6. I'd rather have one fill location and save my money. I go to the fuel
    station at OFF PEAK hours, I never worry about such shit...
     
    My Name Is Nobody, Nov 15, 2007
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  7. George Orwell

    Jeff Guest

    What about Oregon? They require it, too. I live in NJ. I would rather he
    didn't.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Nov 15, 2007
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  8. I have duals also so they put the filler through a hole in the rear seat
    console.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Nov 15, 2007
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  9. George Orwell

    Anyolmouse Guest

    | Have you taken notice that some cars have the gas fill opening on the
    | driver's side and others have it located on the passenger's side?
    Either
    | way, there is only one way you can drive up to the pumps. The pump's
    | transfer hose must be on the side of the gas fill opening. This is
    | inconvenient at a busy gas station where your available spot may not
    fit
    | your car's configuration. Today's gas pumps have short hoses that
    cannot
    | reach around to the opposite side of your car.
    |
    | A long time ago, some cars were fitted with a central, rear-bumper
    location
    | for universal gas fill, under the license plate. That location is
    | considered unsafe today.
    |
    | My suggestion is that all cars be fitted with TWO gas fill access, one
    on
    | the left rear quarter panel and the other on the right. Then, you
    could
    | drive up to a gas pump from either direction and pump gas.
    |
    | Sure, it will cost a few dollars to add this feature, but so what?
    The
    | dozens of added features to cars already cost and nobody's
    complaining. At
    | least, this suggestion makes good sense, more sense than many costly
    | features that do little or nothing for comfort or safety: radio
    controls on
    | the steering wheel, for example. Cars now cost 10 times what they
    used to
    | within the lifetime of people still in the workforce, so I say, so
    what if
    | a two-way gas filler costs an extra $5 or $10 to the auto maker and
    | translated into $10 or $20 more retail?
    |
    |
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    | https://www.mixmaster.it
    |

    I can and do fill my Safari van by draping the hose over the top of the
    van at the local Sams store. The same for my Toyota Tacoma. They only
    allow one way traffic through the pumps to avoid head bumping and fist
    fights ;-} Thanks to people such as you I hardly ever have to wait for a
    free pump.
     
    Anyolmouse, Nov 15, 2007
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  10. George Orwell

    Tim Guest

    A few years ago I was in NJ and asked an attendant why they had that law. He
    said its a union thing
     
    Tim, Nov 15, 2007
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  11. George Orwell

    Tom Guest

    yup it is a union thing. the gas pumpers union is all powerfull, and will
    never let the law be changed.

    just last week, they signed a new contract, and they now are being paid over
    $7/hr!!!

    as a matter of fact, when i retire from my present job, i am going to join
    the gas pumpers union. by then, they should be making at least $9/hr, so i
    will only be taking a $14/hr pay cut.
     
    Tom, Nov 15, 2007
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  12. George Orwell

    Jeff Guest

    The attendant was wrong. Do you really think most attendant are union
    workers? I don't. At the wages they get, I doubt they are able to afford
    union dues.

    <http://www.stateline.org/live/details/story?contentId=110510>

    There is self-service gas in New Jersey because the people of the state
    want it that way.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Nov 15, 2007
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  13. George Orwell

    Tom Guest

    that is why i put that piece of sarcasm post into this thread.
     
    Tom, Nov 15, 2007
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  14. George Orwell

    kmath50 Guest

    Back in the 1960's, there were many cars having the filler neck behind
    the rear license plate. My Dad's 1965 Dodge Coronet was this way. The
    plate mount was spring loaded. This enabled the vehicle to be filled
    from either side. Once the tanks had to be mounted further away from
    the rear for safety, that pretty much ended that.

    -KM
     
    kmath50, Nov 15, 2007
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  15. George Orwell

    Lloyd Guest

    But most cars today have a little arrow on the fuel gauge, telling you
    which side the filler is on.
    Also, it was down so low, fuel often overflowed out of the filler when
    filling, or when full. That's an emissions problem.
    Jaguars used to have two tanks, with a filler on each rear fender.
     
    Lloyd, Nov 15, 2007
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  16. George Orwell

    Jeff Guest

    Gee, I hope you don't go into comedy for living. You'll be making less
    than the attendants, after paying their union dues.



    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Nov 15, 2007
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  17. George Orwell

    Chevy Man Guest

    Yet another reason NOT to own a Ford

     
    Chevy Man, Nov 15, 2007
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  18. George Orwell

    Tim J. Guest

    And what "reason" might that be?
     
    Tim J., Nov 15, 2007
    #18
  19. While it may have started as some misguided social labor management attempt,
    employ the otherwise unemployable, it remains in place now because all the
    lazy voters who don't want to vote to pump their own gas...
     
    My Name Is Nobody, Nov 15, 2007
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  20. George Orwell

    vertuas Guest

    You are kidding right.

    Think about the Ford / Mercury Focus. Look at the Reverse / Rear fog lamps.
    Now tell me what you notice.

    Thats right one reverse (back up) light and one rear fog light!

    Now a car the size of a Focus should IMHO have one of each at either side,
    it would cost ford a couple of dollars per car to install one of each at
    either side, will they do it? Yeah right....
     
    vertuas, Nov 15, 2007
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