Fuel Economy Ratings: Tare or MGVW?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Nomen Nescio, Apr 30, 2006.

  1. Nomen Nescio

    Nomen Nescio Guest

    Realistically, all government fuel mileage measurements should be conducted
    with the vehicle loaded. If Boeing would try to sell the Dreamliner and
    give performance specs. with an empty plane, its customers would laugh at
    them.

    So, why should we accept mpg measurements with two gallons in the tank and
    a horse jockey driver? When our President says the fleet of new cars are
    going to achieve 27.5 mpg by 2010, then he ought to get serious about it
    and specify 25.5 mpg at GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT.

    I bet your so-called economy SUV sucks plenty of gas pulling the family and
    camping gear up the Grapevine, even at the 55 mph that might yet come to
    pass, given that politicians will still drive their gas-thirsty government
    limos and chartered jet planes. Slow is for us, not them.
     
    Nomen Nescio, Apr 30, 2006
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  2. Dont you EVER get tired of spitting at the mirror?
     
    Backyard Mechanic, May 1, 2006
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    Jim Warman Guest

    Oranges are a citrus fruit... apples are not....

    FWIW, EPA measurements have nothing to do with the mileage you will get on
    the street... These are done on a dynamometer with carefully measured and
    controlled conditions - so that customers can "comparison shop"... It is
    quite apparent that you have no understanding of how EPA ratings are
    measured.

    Realistically, your head is so far up your ass that you will never
    understand the reason this NG exists... Realistically, you will never
    understand why a lot of things are the way they are...

    In case you didn't notice... if your car runs out of gas, you can pull over
    to the side of the road... if the airplane runs out of gas, things get a bit
    more complex...

    You have established the fact that you have an agenda.. I can't speak for
    anyone else, but I really don't care to hear about your agenda... I can see
    your resume in my minds eye... Under the heading "Interests", you have
    written, "I love to be tedious...".
     
    Jim Warman, May 1, 2006
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  4. Uh... generally you can speak for me, but you already knew that.

    But i picture "I love to be tedious..." when describing personality
    traits..
    I see "Working towards peace and love in the one-world utopia" as his
    main interest.

    I hate to break it to you, Nomen... but you are the archetypal quasi-
    intellectual.
    You have probably had several years of post-high school attendance and
    thought you were 'educated' but you were only indoctrinated.

    Because you learned nothing about how to apply human nature and reality
    onto the matrix of socialization.

    I went through only two semesters of 'hier l'arnin' and quit in disgust
    because most of my instructors were self-important windbags with the same
    attitudes as you, and the 'Student Leaders' were even worse.

    No, that doesnt make me BETTER than you... it makes me realize that I am
    the cause of my own failures.
    And the same applies to any community. Not to be blamed on 'them' or
    'those people'.
    But guess what... i had for 25 years a good living in continuous
    employment as an engineer and systems analyst.

    Because the SECOND thing i applied to any system design after I got it to
    work, is I checked it to see if it worked when 'people' used it... and if
    people WOULD go to the trouble to use it.

    It doesnt matter a damn bit if you build the better mousetrap if it's too
    hard to set it up... and the same thing applies to society. Doesnt
    matter HOW many rules you make or laws you pass, if it is a piece of
    crap, that's all it is.

    I dont know if you grasp what I just said, but maybe if you tried REAL
    hard and went outside your little box.
     
    Backyard Mechanic, May 1, 2006
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    Bill Putney Guest

    For one thing, I've noticed that the pilot starts sweating a lot when
    that big cooling fan up front quits turning. :)

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, May 1, 2006
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  6. Consistent recurring theme for Noman Nesquick:

    THE GOVERNMENT OUGHT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT ....!!!!!!!!


    Nomen operates on this principle: The average guy is an idiot and needs
    to be protected from himself.

    This fits squarely into 'Progressive' principles... where only the
    educated and informed (read indoctrinated and elite) make the rules and
    decide 'what's good enough'.

    Once that happens, then they can ALSO decide that what these chumps
    already HAVE is good enough.
    - See Jimmy Carter; 'Malaise' speech

    Nomen has no faith in free markets. He has no faith in the voter,
    however i would bet he is ALSO against voter ID at the polls.

    Already many 'Progressives' on Liberal and Democrat internet sites
    complain that Utopia isnt coming fast enough and that what is needed is a
    'coup' where current governemnt is forced from office by a 'citizen
    uprising'

    I wonder what Nomen thinks of that?
    That is a rhetorical question...I dont want him to answer it here... just
    GO AWAY and educate some OTHER kool-aid drinkers.

    - - - - - - -- - - - -- -- - - - -
     
    Backyard Mechanic, May 1, 2006
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  7. What fool believes anything that the president says?
     
    Alex Rodriguez, May 1, 2006
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    Mike Hunter Guest

    you are correct he is not too smart the President does not have the power to
    set CAFE. Only the Congress has taken the power to do so under the commerce
    clause


    mike hunt
     
    Mike Hunter, May 3, 2006
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    Joe Guest

    Really, Nomen's just a troll. You give him way too much credit.
     
    Joe, May 5, 2006
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