Front Brake Pad Retaining Clips - 2000 Concorde LXi

Discussion in 'Concorde' started by jaygreg, Feb 11, 2009.

  1. jaygreg

    jaygreg Guest

    My official shop manual shows an exploded diagram of the parts
    involved in brake components but it isn't detailed enough to instruct
    me exactly where those little clips go in relation to the shoe, the
    caliper, and the flat surface the caliper sets on at the bottom and
    the top. Can anyone pain a verbal picture or direct me to a source on
    the net where I can see it?
    jaygreg, Feb 11, 2009
  2. jaygreg

    Bill Putney Guest

    I assume the diagram you are referring to is the one in my post all the
    way at the bottom of this page:

    Scroll down to the 4th post (the one with the photos) on this page (in
    the same thread):

    I think those are what you are referring to, but I might be wrong -
    people use the names of parts so haphazardly. The top two photos are
    what would accurately be called pad retractors (they act like springs to
    help push the pads away from the rotors when the brakes are not being
    used to reduce/eliminate drag and help minimize wear and heat).

    The bottom two photos show what I would call wear bars (I call them that
    because they provide renewable rubbing surfaces so the pad ears don't
    wear into the steering knuckle when they move back and forth during use
    of the brakes). You would use one or the other - i.e., either the pad
    retractors *OR* the wear bars. Some people use neither with no
    seriously bad effects. With neither installed, the pads will sit
    slightly further in on the rotors (giving slightly (but probably
    insignificantly) less braking effect than if you had either the wear
    bars or the retractors installed). Personally, I use the pad retractors
    on both of my Concordes to minimize brake drag, heat, and wear.

    I hope you are referring to one of those two parts - and if so, you can
    now see exactly how they are installed.

    While we are on the subject, there really is a minor issue with the pad
    retainers on the front pads on the LH cars, depending on which brand of
    pads you get.

    See the photo and two sketches in my first post here:

    Early on, apparently there was a mix up in the information that flowed
    from Chrysler to the aftermarket world on the front brake pads for the
    2nd generation LH cars. The photo and the sketches in my linked post
    tell the story. The pad that most aftermarket companies used to sell,
    and many still do, have the wrong retainer on them (front outboard
    pads). As you can see in the photo, the ends of the retainers are
    *supposed* to fit in the recesses in the caliper (where the letters "KH"
    are) but don't.

    The photo shows the pad with the wrong retainer on it. The lower sketch
    shows that the correct retainer is straight along the bottom edge, not
    curved up (like a moustache) like the incorrect retainer is in the
    photo. The correct retainer fits perfectly in the recesses. The good
    news if you got the wrong one (because the manufacturer is too stupid or
    lazy to have fixed the problem years after they were bound to have known
    about it) is that the pads with the wrong retainers will work OK.
    Because the retainer rests on the edge of the recess with spring
    loading, the pad tends to tilt or flip into the rotor, and so may drag a
    little bit. But hopefully your pads have the correct retainers.

    Probably more info. than you wanted to know, but hopefully I addressed
    what you were really asking about.
    Bill Putney, Feb 11, 2009
  3. jaygreg

    jaygreg Guest

    Hi Bill. Thanks for the help. Yes... it's the retractor clips I tried
    to describe. I was able to find a picture on another site for Dodges.
    Another individual described the problem and someone who appeared
    knowledgeable can to his aid with photos. I used those as my guide and
    completed teh task before I read your reply. Your pictures are
    actually better than those I used. Thanks for the help ... again.

    P.S, Couldn't link to the last URL you gave without a password:
    jaygreg, Feb 12, 2009
  4. jaygreg

    Bill Putney Guest

    You're welcome. Was that Dodge site by chance,
    and the info. posted by someone named "Peva"? If so - that was me.
    Oops - yes - that particular thread is on a "members only" area of the
    site. Hopefully you can tell from my verbal description whether your
    front pads have the correct retainers or not (based on whether the ends
    of the retainers nest properly in the recesses of the calipers). But
    like I said, the wrong ones will work OK, they just will fit a little funky.

    Glad you got the retractors figured out.
    Bill Putney, Feb 12, 2009
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