Forget Toyota. Chrysler's got the most problems

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Jim Higgins, Mar 10, 2010.

  1. Jim Higgins

    Jim Higgins Guest

    R.I.P. Chrysler

    Forget Toyota. Chrysler's got the most problems
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    NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The car company that is off to the worst
    start of 2010 isn't Toyota. It's Chrysler Group.

    Industry experts say that even though Chrysler's overall sales are down
    only 3% during the first two months of the year, estimates show more
    than half of Chrysler's sales have been to fleet customers, such as
    rental car companies.

    American consumers have essentially turned their backs on the Chrysler,
    Dodge and Jeep brands. By some estimates, the once proud member of
    America's Big Three automakers fell to No. 7 in February in terms of
    sales to U.S. consumers.

    Chrysler's sales to consumers have plunged more than 44% so far this
    year, according to estimates by industry tracker Edmunds.com.

    By comparison, Edmunds.com estimates that Toyota's retail sales fell
    less than 14%, even though Toyota stopped selling its best-selling
    models for more than a week in January, and has been hammered by a
    constant drumbeat of bad news ever since.

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    Chrysler's numbers look even worse when you consider that it should be
    benefiting from easy comparisons to a year ago. Chrysler shut much of
    its production in early 2009 in an effort to save cash. Customers were
    also worried if it would survive the looming bankruptcy process.

    The problem with fleet sales. Fleet sales may be masking bigger problems
    at Chrysler right now, but experts say they are not a very secure
    lifeboat for an automaker whose customer demand is sinking fast.

    Sales to rental car companies are driven by deep price discounts, and
    they are bound to hurt the company's future sales and profits when the
    low-mileage used cars sold to fleets go on sale themselves.

    "You can not viably survive with fleet and rental sales over 50%," said
    Jesse Toprak, vice president of industry trends for TrueCar, a car
    pricing and sales service. "The math just doesn't work."

    Company officials, however, said Chrysler is on track to reduce its
    reliance on fleet sales and that they should make up only about 25% of
    total sales this year. But a Chrysler spokeswoman also said strong sales
    to rental car companies are a good sign.

    "We have to rebuild consumers' confidence in the company," the
    spokeswoman said. "The fact that large companies are willing to buy our
    vehicles helps rebuild that confidence, so fleet is part our businesses
    strategy."

    Chrysler admits that its pipeline of new vehicles is fairly limited
    right now, but it expects better sales at the end of this year when new
    models are due in dealers' showrooms.

    Pipeline problems. But other experts say it's risky for Chrysler and
    Italian automaker Fiat, which bought a controlling share of Chrysler out
    of bankruptcy last year, to count on models designed in Italy to get
    American buyers interested in Chrysler again.

    Erich Merkle, president of Autoconomy.com, an industry analysis firm,
    said the Fiat brand and designs are untested in the U.S. market. He
    points out that even Chrysler's better products, such as the Ram
    heavy-duty pickup, which just won Motor Trend's Truck of the Year award,
    has had sales problems.

    "The fact that they're losing share on the pickup side, it says to me
    that this goes beyond the product itself," he said. "I think Chrysler in
    the near term will be at the mercy of the market. They'll continue to
    lose market share, but they've got to hope that a rising tide will lift
    all boats."

    Chrysler's weakness in mid-size sedans, compacts and so-called crossover
    utility vehicles means that it is gaining the least of any major
    automaker from the problems at Toyota.

    Jessica Caldwell, director of industry analysis at Edmunds.com, said
    traffic on its site for almost all the other major manufacturers moved
    up in the wake of Toyota's recall woes. "But nothing happened at
    Chrysler," she said.

    Still, most experts think that Chrysler will be able to stay in
    business, at least in the near-term. But the news is unlikely to get
    much better soon.

    "It really is survival mode for the next 18 months until they see
    product in the showroom," said Jeff Schuster, director of global
    forecasting at J.D. Power & Associates. "They're not finished with the
    turnaround yet. This is not something that can happen overnight."
     
    Jim Higgins, Mar 10, 2010
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  2. IMO
    I still will not own another Chrysler again since owning a Toyota and
    Honda.
    i've owned Chryslers for over 20 years and i can say with a straight
    face not one of them kept me out of the dealership for warranty work
    within the 4 months of purchase date.
    since owning my Toyota and Honda for over 3 years i have not had any
    warranty work done at all after putting on over 60k mi on each vehicle
    and that says a whole lot of trust and faith.
    So if Toyota is having a few problems but they,along with Honda and
    few other car makers, have not had as many recalls and TSB's than the
    big 3 and didnot need to be bail out like the big 3.
    So quality and service and control speaks for itself.
     
    Bentracer and Bentrider, Mar 10, 2010
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    Steve Stone Guest


    Geese I love you guys who waddle into a Chrysler group, full flame on,
    touting the advantages of purchasing vehicles that assist you in proving
    the theory of natural selection.

    Good luck in your quest for the Darwin Award.
     
    Steve Stone, Mar 11, 2010
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    Josh S Guest

    Only product that interests me will rebuild that confidence for me.
    Since 2004 Chrysler has not had a mid size car that meets my needs.
    Of course my needs are continually changing.
    Chrysler seems to have given up on their cars here. They only advertise
    their trucks.
    The understatement of the year.
    Not sure if I'll even bother looking at them.
    A few Fiats I've rented in the UK had inadequate driver leg room.
    Just not designed for my body type.
    Definitely a problem.

    It's my hope Chrysler does get back on track with cars. We now have 3
    Chrysler cars which are very reliable, so we can probably stick with
    what we have for some time. Hopefully Chrysler comes out with the right
    car product before we need to trade.
     
    Josh S, Mar 13, 2010
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