For Sale: 1968 Dodge Polara show winner, must see photos / rare classic

Discussion in 'Chrysler Parts For Sale / Trade' started by erikdblair, Aug 5, 2007.

  1. erikdblair

    erikdblair Guest

    1968 Dodge Polara, Vintage Classic, rare and unspoiled vehicle with
    318 engine and two 4-barrel carbs!

    Check out dubdubdub my dodge polara dot com

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    1968 Dodge Polara, Classic Muscle Car -- Street Modified Show Winner!
    You will not find a Dodge Polara in better condition! Everything has
    been handcrafted in fine detail. The original owner is selling because
    he needs room to fit new projects. In fact, he is the only one who has
    sat in it since the complete interior was redone!

    What is the value of this incredible machine? Who knows? But it is
    worth every cent! Cars like this are going for 25, 30, 40 or even
    $50,000 on eBay and elsewhere, but you can experience the rush and
    excitement of owning your own piece of history for only $19,888. The
    countless hours refinishing, restoring and reconditioning alone is
    worth more than your price for this rare vehicle. You really need to
    see and hear this car!

    What's included: take a look at the engine in this baby! It is a
    rebuilt 318 with two four-barrel carburetors. Lots of chrome and
    polished aluminum! Most everything is new or rebuilt. The brake and
    fule lines are polished stainless steel and custom installed. It has
    anew steering box, shocks, ball joints, tires, rim with knockoffs, all
    new chrome bumpers custom designed and polished. The steering column
    was rebuilt and the entire dash redone--everything works! Has tach and
    guages under dash. Extra N.O.S. AM Radio available upon request. All
    new rear drum brake parts and brand new stainless steel front disc
    brakes. The exhaust system is new with 24 glass packs--all ceramic
    coated. The exhaust was installed by RPM Mufflers in Hayward, CA. The
    interior is completely new and custom designed for this car. You have
    to see it! The trunk interior matches the rest of the car!

    The dashboard was sent along with the arm rests to to "Just Dashes" in
    Los Angeles; all new handles inside and out of the doors; custom
    pinstriping throughout the inside and out of the car, even under the
    hood--60's style cutout!

    Here's the fine print: This car was specifically designed to show,
    drive and enjoy! It is not a tire burner! It is a cruiser! Serious
    buyers only! No low-ballers, tightwads, etc. If you have the cash and
    want an incredible deal on a fantastic show car, well this is it! The
    price has already been dropped for a fast sale; no tire kickers! The
    vehicle is priced right, this is a final sale, as is, out the door
    cash deal! No payments or special arraingements. Shipping will be up
    to the buyer and payment in full must happen prior to making any
    shipping plans.

    Here's the way we're doing this: you send me an email stating your
    interest with any questions, and I contact the actual owner when you
    have been prequalified as a seriously interested buyer. No phone calls
    until after we've established your level of interest and ability to
    pay! Sorry for the requirements, but the internet is full of lookiloos
    and car-curious lurkers. Thank you for your interest!

    my dodge polara "dot" com

    Thanks!

    Erik
     
    erikdblair, Aug 5, 2007
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    Steve Guest

    Don't get me wrong, I LOVE late 60's Polaras.

    But the day a 318-powered anything other than a 'Cuda convertible or an
    Andy Granatelli Indy car is worth 20k I'll eat my shorts.
     
    Steve, Aug 7, 2007
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    erikdblair Guest

    have to disagree with you. This is a cruiser, not a drag racer. 90
    MPH on freeway uphill, no problem! The fine details of putting
    together a rare piece of machinery like this takes a lot of time and
    effort. That is worth something. This baby is alltogether hotrod!

    Thanks for your input however...

    Erik
    mydodgepolara.com
    See the video --> http://www.mydodgepolara.com
     
    erikdblair, Aug 14, 2007
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    rob Guest

    why the funky price with 888 on it?

    and polaras were cruisers not muscle cars
     
    rob, Aug 14, 2007
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    John Mielke Guest

    Rob,
    I think an asterisk is required here..... post-64 Polaras were cruisers.
    There are plenty of 63 & 64 Polaras that qualify as 'Muscle Cars.'
    John
     
    John Mielke, Aug 15, 2007
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    rob Guest

    probably right. I was referring to his web site saying the 68 was a classic
    muscle car.....

    I'd take a 64 any day. hell ya.
     
    rob, Aug 15, 2007
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    John Mielke Guest

    My brother used to have a 318-powered '68 Polara back in the early 70's.
    'Muscle Car' is not a term I'd use in describing it. On the other hand, my
    friend had a '63 Polara with a 496" Hemi (currently living somewhere in
    Arizona). That one definitely fits anybody's definition of a 'Muscle Car.'
    Several stout Max Wedge '64's still running around the Motor City still as
    well.
    John
     
    John Mielke, Aug 15, 2007
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    HEMI-Powered Guest

    John Mielke added these comments in the current discussion du
    jour ...
    I am 2nd generation Chrysler, now retired myself. I spent 33
    years in a wide variety of engineering and IT positions at all
    grade levels in Chrysler engineering. So, besides a large number
    of cars I've either bought or leased on the company car program,
    plus many cars with all sorts of engines in them while on the
    job, I can categorically say - my opinion, YMMV - that a 318 in
    ANY C-Body car is so anemic as to be almost dangerous, almost as
    bad as the 1st 2.2L K-Cars. You're trying to push around a 4200+
    pound car with only 230 bhp, which might be around 150-160 net
    hp. The power-to-weight for even the bhp was only around 18:1.

    I had a number of 318s in smaller vehicles, sometimes because
    there was no choice, e.g. 1981 Cordoba, 1976 Volare, 1978
    LeBaron, etc. I DID buy a 1975 Plymouth Gran Fury Brougham with a
    360 in it, but I ordered a 3.23 axle for it. I'd driven similar
    cars at work and test-drove a car at the dealer with a 2.76.

    So, personally, I wouldn't much want a 318 Polara, preferring a
    383 2-barrel at least. But, as I said, that's my opinion and
    your's obviously does vary.

    Now, I've also driven EVERY performance car Chrysler made 1969-
    1970, then Army, then 1972-1975 when I switched to IT. But, by
    then, the muscle car era had ended. And, living here, I did the
    so-called Woodward Avenue Grand Prix loop from the Totem Pole
    drive-in in Royal Oak to Ted's Drive-In at Square Lake road and
    watched these cars in action against the best from GM and Ford.
    My personal observations were that a 383 Magnum was flatly non-
    competitive on the street, I know, I had one in my 1970
    Challenger R/T. Even the 440 Magnum was barely adequate against
    an SS-396 or GTO 389, and no where near an SS-454 or a 455 Goat.
    Again, in my opinion, it took a 440 Six Pack to beat these guys.

    And, no, the 426 Street Hemi was NOT the car to beat on the
    street. Drags, yes, street, no. Several reasons: most people
    bought them with 3.23 gears because they needed to drive to work,
    which is not a good ratio for the torque curve of the Hemi. More
    important, though was that if the car had PB, it was almost a
    day's work to get the booster off so you could pull the valve
    covers and set the lash as well as replace the left rear plug.
    Lots of guys didn't have the time or energy so they drove around
    with with 4 anemic cylinders because of loose lash and one dead
    cylinder with a fouled plug. But, 60-punch on I-75 with a
    TorqueFlite was OWNED by the Hemi. That's not a good speed for
    the 4-speed GM and Ford cars, but right at the torque peak of the
    Hemi.

    Unfortunately, I never drove a Max Wedge anything, was in H.S.
    then. And, they didn't pass out drag race dual-quad short ram 426
    Hemis for any yahoo to test spin.
     
    HEMI-Powered, Aug 15, 2007
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    Steve Guest

    I agree with you 100% on all of the above statements (I own a '66
    Polara, 440 2.93 highway gears, would run triple digits for 8 hours
    without breaking a sweat and the AC blowing frost). And I'm sure its a
    great car.

    But a 318 C-body still doesn't command that kind of $$ in the market.
    Sorry. Neither does my Polara, and its a 383 car originally. Now if it
    were a pre-66 300 Letter car, or a Monaco 500 convertible.... different
    story.
     
    Steve, Aug 16, 2007
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    HEMI-Powered Guest

    Steve added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...
    Isn't it just a tad dangerous to run 8 hours over 100 mph, not to
    mention highly illegal? If you ever get busted by the State
    Police, you won't get a ticket, you'll be cuffed and arrested. 20
    or 25 over is considered reckless driving. That, possibly
    combined with weaving lanes to get around the people who think
    that 80 is fast will add to your problems, etc. Don't know where
    you live, but it ain't the Autobahn!
    This part I agree with. The only people who would want such a car
    is someone who just wants a "classic" car at a reasonable price
    that won't keep them repairing it all the time. I was cruising
    again last night on Woodward Avenue (pre-cruise on Saturday
    crusing) and saw a number of cars like the OP described. Nothing
    wrong with it at all, just not an especially exciting car to
    cruise in.
     
    HEMI-Powered, Aug 16, 2007
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    Steve Guest

    Depends on what the limit is. "20 over" is usually the threshold for
    getting "busted" instead of ticketed around here, and there are freeways
    with an 80 mph limit (I 10, for example). But I'm too old to risk it, I
    never run more than about 8 mph over any given limit. But the
    bedwetters are, I think, pushing for busting you for anthing over 90
    regardless of the limit now, since the new 80 limit puts "20 over" at
    100 and they just can't stand the idea of someone running triple digits
    and not being a criminal.

    Besides I said the car "would" do it. And it would, but I've never
    sustained anything above 85. I took my family on vacation in that car
    last year, and 80 mph is the posted speed limit on I-10 in west Texas
    (and people run 85-88 all the time). It purred at that speed for hours,
    that is 100% in its element and what those cars were made to do. Had to
    slow down to the mid-70s heading north across New Mexico after that, and
    it felt like walking :)

    The reason I keep my '66 is precisely because its not worth a mint. It
    allows me to enjoy driving a 440-powered Mopar every day without
    worrying about it any more than I'd worry about a modern car. Can't do
    that with its sister- my '69 Coronet R/T. But I do keep it
    well-maintained. I'd rather keep an old car looking and running good
    than a new one, and I can't for the life of me figure out why Toyota
    owners even bother washing the little sh*tboxes :)
     
    Steve, Aug 17, 2007
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    erikdblair Guest

    I apologise for using the "muscle car" term loosely.

    You are right of course.

    Erik
     
    erikdblair, Aug 18, 2007
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    erikdblair Guest

    Yes, I know. The 318 C-body Polara is still unique in car shows and
    such.
    Somebody wants this one. Lots of interest. I'd like a Monaco 500
    myself :)
     
    erikdblair, Aug 18, 2007
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    Ken Doyle Guest

    The combination of the 318 and the excellent torqueflight trans is pretty
    amazing. A buddy of mine had a '68 Fury III with the 318 2bbl. It would
    beat my '71 Galaxie 351W or a '74 Monte Carlo 350 from 0 - 60 with no
    problem.

    When the car is heavy, look at the torque, not the horsepower.

    Ken D.
     
    Ken Doyle, Aug 19, 2007
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    HEMI-Powered Guest

    Ken Doyle added these comments in the current discussion du jour
    ....
    No matter what the weight of the car, torque is what accelerates
    it, while hp is what gives it speed, especially top speed. It is
    the combination of torque and hp and their relative curve shape
    and peak rpms, as well as their rise and fall characteristics
    that are tuned to produce desired performance from docile street
    to muscle car to street drag racer to a full-blown drag-only car.
    In my freshman year in Engineering School, we had an interesting
    lecture and exercise that shows how the hp and torque curves,
    combined with what is called "road hp" can be used to predict
    mathematically the top speed of any vehicle with any engine.

    Basically, when aerodynamic forces, drag, tire and other kinds of
    friction, etc. combine to create an amount of hp to go faster,
    and the engine cannot exceed that, that is the top speed. In the
    1960s, Richard Petty was asked why he didn't go faster in some
    race and pass what turned out to be the winning car. He said that
    his engine and car builder had told him that at the speeds they
    were running, close to 200 but before the Winged Warrier days, it
    wouldn't taken 50 hp to go just 1-2 mph faster. He didn't have
    it. In fact, the Hemi no matter its great reputation, did not
    have all that great a hp advantage over the 427 Chevy and Fords,
    thus Dodge went to aerodynamics to try to get more speed by
    lowering drag, thus lowering road hp as described above.

    Still, I stand by my previous statement. Having personally driven
    318-equipped cars from A- to B- to C-Body and weights from 3200-
    4400 pounds, I can safely say that the heavy cars were just too
    much for it. Could it accelerate without being unsafe? Certainly?
    But, go back to the reprints of Hot Rod Magazine and other car
    rags of the 60s and see the times. It wasn't at all unusual for
    318-360-383 2-barrel C-Bodies to take more than 10 seconds to
    sprint to 60, sometimes 12. And, I've got reprints of B-Body cars
    with 440 4-barrel, Six Packs, and 426 Street Hemi cars with gears
    from 3.23 to 4.11 that gave WILDLY differing 0-60 and standing
    1320 ETs. The main reason, of course, was temperature, humidity,
    and track conditions. In car mag testing, you could rule out
    driver error and you could depend on a good tune. e.g., I have a
    test of a 426 Road Runner 4-speed with 4.11 gears that had the
    attrocious 0-60 time of 7.1 seconds and the 1/4 in OVER 15! Can't
    be so, you say? Well, I've got it in print.

    Now, if the moon, planets and stars aligned right, small engines
    could and did best far more powerful engines. e.g., in 1966, I
    had a Dodge Dart GT with a 273 4-barrel, just 235 hp, 4-speed and
    3.23 gears. A friend had a similar car, a 1966 Chevy II Nova SS
    327/350. I could stay with him to about 50 from a standing start
    before he started to pull away - using his vastly superior
    torque. Used to majorly piss him off. The reason was, I believe,
    NOT that one of us was a better driver but the two engines were
    at opposite ends of a BIG set of tolerances that affect
    performance.
     
    HEMI-Powered, Aug 20, 2007
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    Steve Guest

    HEMI-Powered wrote:

    He didn't have
    Not "much" of a HP advantage, but then you just proved that it didn't
    TAKE much. :)

    However, the Hemi had at least one HUGE advantage over the big-block
    Chevy: The Hemi's moving parts usually stayed *inside* the engine for
    the duration of a race :)

    The Ford was good competition, though.
     
    Steve, Aug 20, 2007
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