Flash TCM Upgrade for 1990 Grand Voyager

Discussion in 'Voyager' started by Rob, May 26, 2004.

  1. Rob

    Rob Guest

    My TCM is finned (not sure if original, bought van used) and, based on
    posts, can be programmed. The van's transmission has been flawless
    over the last 20,000 miles I have owned it. Now has 90,000 miles.
    Can someone convince me to go ahead and take it in to get the upgrade
    if it doesn't have it already? I have serious reservations about
    letting anyone touch it, but a good argument might persuade....
     
    Rob, May 26, 2004
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  2. Rob

    jdoe Guest

    If it's finned it probbaly has the latest software. THey can check it too.
    Larry
     
    jdoe, May 26, 2004
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  3. Rob

    mic canic Guest

    if it's not broke don't fix it
    the flashes are not availble anymore so a new one would be the ticket
     
    mic canic, May 27, 2004
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  4. Er...that doesn't sound right to me. According to Chrysler techs I know,
    the flashes certainly *are* still available.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, May 27, 2004
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  5. Rob

    mic canic Guest

    i do believe alot of those flashes were dropped when they switched us from
    mds2 to the new tech connect and i doubt there are any techs left that
    remember how to use the old flash tools that were used to do so for the
    early 90's controllers
     
    mic canic, May 28, 2004
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  6. Rob

    Rob Guest

    Would a new one have the programming pre-installed? I think there
    were two hardware upgrades after the original.
     
    Rob, May 28, 2004
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  7. Rob

    Rob Guest

    Based on 18-24-95, a 1990 AS GV would require TCM part no. 4796122 w/
    pin 49 disconnected. It is the one with 4 heat sinks (there is
    another later one with 7 apparently). It also says "Quick Learn
    Procedure" is not applicable to pre-1992. I would want to know if I
    buy a new TCM would it have the sofware and only require a swap w/o
    going to the dealer? If it did need a flash, the TSB says a CH5500
    Flash Program Kit and Scant Tool DRBIII CH6000 would be needed.
     
    Rob, May 28, 2004
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  8. Rob

    eldred30 Guest

    Several comments.

    First, I agree with mic_canic about "if it's not broke, don't fix it."
    If you take a vehicle that old into a dealer, you are just inviting
    them to suggest a lot of other "urgently needed repairs" that might
    end up costing more than the value of the vehicle.

    Second, I have formed the general opinion that the TCM's (and the
    SMEC's) were not able to be "flashed" (reprogrammed) until about 1995.
    A recent purchase seems to back up that opinion.

    I was recently able to purchase at a very reasonable price, a
    remanufactured TCM. (It never hurts to have a spare.) According to
    the ATSG handbook for the Chrysler A-604, the latest TCM part number
    for 1989 to 1991 transmissions with the 3.0L engine is 4761846. My TCM
    bears this part number and was rebuilt in 5/19/2000.

    This TCM also contains a second, "authorized software update" sticker
    that has the part number 04796121. Taking the cover off, I can see
    through the clear potting compound, a large DIP chip that has been
    marked in large numbers by hand "121" which corresponds to the last
    three digits of the part number.

    What I read into this is that the DIP chip is first programmed, then
    installed into the circuit board, which is then installed into the TCM
    housing.

    Concerning TCM part numbers per the ATSG handbook.
    Good for 1989 to 1991 model year.

    5234623 - Early 1989
    5234649 - Early 1989
    5234678 - Early 1989
    4557120 - During 1989
    4557585 - During 1990
    4672104 - For 1991
    4572002 - During 1991
    4672105 - During 1991
    4728600 - For 3.0L
    4728598 - For 3.3L
    4761846 - Latest for 3.0L
    4761847 - Latest for 3.3L

    Also, the only mention in the ATSG handbook about programming is for
    the 1993 TCM. All 1993 and later TCM's will have to have a pinion
    factor programmed in order for the speedometer and transaxle to
    function properly.

    Hope this helps
     
    eldred30, May 30, 2004
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