Firearms Take-Down Tool-less; Why Not Cars?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Nomen Nescio, Nov 25, 2003.

  1. Nomen Nescio

    Nomen Nescio Guest

    Most guns can be torn down for service without tools, at least so far as
    cleaning and lubrication. Complete teardown requires only simple tools in
    most cases.

    There is no reason why cars shouldn't be the same way. The third biggest
    complaint the public has is car repair. Its not the fault of the repair
    shops though its perceived that way. The proximate fault is with the car
    makers who have made serviceablity last on the list of engineering design
    specifications.

    The poor soul who has a cracked exhaust manifold, for instance. Its bad
    enough the inadequate manifold cracked, but why should the single component
    replacement repair be cascaded into a major teardown with head removal and
    its attended multitude of parts removal, replacement and adjustments? No,
    the manifold should be an easy removal and replacement job. Is it doable?
    Yes, it is.

    Just look at the rocker cover and the oil pan. Lots of little capscrews to
    turn and multipiece gaskets to leak. Why not a simple toggle in place with
    a snap and lock? Instead of multipiece gaskets, a deep recessed grove into
    which a low hysterisis rubber o-ring gasket is laid to effect a perfect
    seal. No tools required, nothing to line up and the job a snap. The
    accessories like water pump, generator and starter should be a quick snap
    in and out directly with no obstructions in the way to block the R & R. How
    is it in your car? Do you have to drop the drive shaft to get the starter
    out? If so, its bad design. Very bad. That's why the labor for a starter
    R & R on some cars is $300 instead of $10.

    A clutch should drop in a slot after a splined coupler shaft is withdrawn.
    Such a redesign would make cluch plate R & R a five minute job. The brake
    pads on todays cars isn't all that bad. Perhaps thats because they were
    designed in the 60s, whereas the clutch was done in the 20s. D-C, I know
    there doesn't seem to be much customer demand for a 5 minute clutch job,
    but once you invest the money to make it so, the customers will flock to
    your dealers in eager anticipation.

    On all new cars, the engineers should be taken to task to R & R all the
    common parts in the assembled car! That'll teach 'em a lesson. Anyone can
    do it like the manual says when the drive train is out and on a dolly. Try
    doing some of those jobs with the engine in the car. Its impossible.

    Most cars are eventually junked when something minor wears out and its too
    expensive to get to it to do R & R.

    Before you come down on the poor grease monkey trying to make a living
    turning those wrenches and swinging that ball peen, watch him at work. Do
    you hear cursing? Is he throwing tools and parts around and stomping on
    goodies like your hall effect pickup? Is he inbribiated? Is he throwing
    fits of anger and sometimes takes a swing at the service manager for giving
    him your car to fix? Is grease up to his elbows? And when the job is
    done, does the service manager give you a mind-blowing labor bill and jacks
    up the prices of all the unnecessary parts his mechanic installed? All
    this is because D-C didn't think serviceability.

    Before you buy your next car, look under the hood. Can you find all the
    sparking plugs? The starter? The generator? The water pump? How about
    the master brake cylinder and power booster? Look for the steering gear.
    Do you think you could pull it out if you had to? What about the fuel
    injectors? Do they look like they could be popped out for testing and
    replacement if they needed it? And don't forget all the important
    accessories like automatic power pedal adjusters. Do check out all these
    things and more before you lay down your hard earned $25,000 for a 2004
    Belchfire TownCar.
     
    Nomen Nescio, Nov 25, 2003
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    Ric Guest

    Very well spoken and thought out.. you making any money on that?
     
    Ric, Nov 26, 2003
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    Red Cloud Guest

    BEcause gun reserves the special right for America. Right to bear
    arm is
    what makes great AMerica. Think of the American history, this great
    nation is built on by using firearm to kill indians. That's right. Who
    cares about Indian
    anyways? Gun is the key to the American revolution and democracy. Give
    the
    gun to every household to make sure the Second Amendment is implement
    it.
     
    Red Cloud, Nov 26, 2003
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  4. Wow, now we have the 2 biggest idiots that post on the group engaged in a
    discussion.
    This might be interesting to see just how inane they get. Probably they
    will end up
    proving the world is flat, or some such.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Nov 26, 2003
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