EVERYONE: Be careful of junkyard BCM's and PCM's.

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Bill, Aug 26, 2005.

  1. Bill

    Bill Guest

    Hello everyone,

    I feel I should post this message for everyone out there. When working
    on any Chrysler vehicle 1996 and newer; be very careful of trying
    junkyard or computers from another vehicle. Many people make this
    mistake, and it can be extremely costly. A good rule to go by is: If
    you vehicle does not have a factory theft system in it, do not take
    the chance of plugging a used powertrain control module or body
    control module into your car. What will happen is, the computer will
    transmit a set of codes to the other computer, and contaminate the
    other one. It confuses the other computer, and your car wont start.
    The codes will be burned in to the microprocessor of the computer.
    Unfortunately, the only way to correct this situation once it happens
    is to replace the PCM and BCM together as a fresh pair, either
    remanufactured or new from MOPAR. I know this to be a fact, because I
    talk to people every day that make this mistake. People, please be
    aware, and save yourself some headaches and a LOT of money! The
    junkyard is very tempting, but be very careful. Any questions on this,
    e-mail me at:



    Bill
     
    Bill, Aug 26, 2005
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  2. And let me chime in here - people, the problem you are having is
    MOST LIKELY NOT THE COMPUTER!!

    Auto computers are pretty tough little critters. They have to survive
    high vibration and garbage power. Unfortunately since (it appears)
    few techs seems to understand them, they regard them as 'black boxes'
    and if there's a problem the tech cannot figure out, their immediate
    impulse is to assume "I don't understand it so it must be bad"

    One of the fundamentals is Garbage In, Garbage Out. Bad sensor
    inputs are going to make a car computer behave screwy, and that's
    a fact. There's lots of people on EBay who are trying to sell extra
    car computers they bought, assuming the computer in their car is bad,
    then they swap it and the problem doesen't go away. Don't be one
    of them.

    And in a reliability contest between electronics and mechanicals,
    electronics are going to win most of the time. Your electrical
    connections in the vehicle are mechanical connections, not electronic.
    Vibration shakes them apart.

    You should always look at the computer as the LAST thing to test.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Aug 26, 2005
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  3. Bill

    davets Guest

    Thanks for the advice. What sensors would cause my door locks to unlock and
    lock randomly whether its running or not or moving or not. The baby got
    locked in the car the other day and just before the cops got there the
    locks unlocked by themselves. We always use the key fob to unlock the
    doors and use either the driver's door switch or the fob to lock them so I
    don't think the disarm switches attached to the door cylinder locks are the
    problem but I could be wrong.
     
    davets, Aug 26, 2005
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  4. Bill

    tim bur Guest

    nice try ted but you are dead wrong
    the bcm's in that generation of van are well known for all sorts of issues
    and you need to stop speading shit around you know nothing about
     
    tim bur, Aug 26, 2005
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  5. Bill

    Guest Guest


    I don't know on a Chrysler - but the range control switch on the trans
    on my brother's Taurus went bad, and made the radio misbehave, the
    wipers to misbehave, and several other seamingly totally unrelated
    items. New switch - no more "gremlins"
     
    Guest, Aug 27, 2005
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  6. You are a fucking retard, asshole. You yourself just posted this 6 minutes
    earlier:

    "take it in it just might be a bad connection but you won't know until
    fault
    codes are pulled from the bcm"

    So if bcm's are so bad like you say, then why did you tell him it might be a
    bad connection? Why didn't you just tell him to just replace the bcm? You
    told
    him exactly what I told him, check the computer LAST, fuckhead.

    Now go crawl under your rock.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Aug 28, 2005
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  7. "Soccer Dad" posted today with the same problem, was told to have disarm
    switches
    checked, same as you were told by "danmnickname"

    Once you have the dealer fix it, tell us what the problem was.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Aug 28, 2005
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