Engine swap for voyager

Discussion in 'Voyager' started by Oppie, Dec 23, 2003.

  1. Oppie

    Oppie Guest

    Cylinder head gasket went on my minivan the other day. Was on a highway trip
    and the temperature light never came on. By the time I saw the white smoke
    from the exhaust, the engine was already toast.

    I would like to just get a junkyard engine to swap in. My van is a plymouth
    voyager, 1989, 2.5L, non-turbo.
    Does anybody know what other motors will fit?

    I got one hit on a junkyard that said they had a '97 motor for $300. Sounds
    like a crapshoot but a new engine last I checked was $2600 which at the
    moment is out of the question.
    Also found www.cherry-auto.com which links to urgpartsearch.com. This gave
    me several hits on engines from '89 through '94 at an average cost
    (including shipping) of $950.

    Thanks in advance for any pointers
    Oppie, Dec 23, 2003
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    Dave Gower Guest

    I just got rid of my 92 2.5 Voyager last summer, same reason. Considering
    the age of the van, I wouldn't try to fit in any other type of motor. You'd
    be bound to have problems with motor mounts, linkages electrics etc. Instead
    I'd look for any 2.5. Doesn't have to be in a van. Buy a crocked-out Shadow
    etc where you can see the engine run, take out engine, throw away car. Even
    better if you could get one with papers saying the cylinder head was
    recently and professionally redone.

    Good luck.
    Dave Gower, Dec 23, 2003
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    Dave Gower Guest

    Oh yes, if you take an engine from a car, make sure you keep the van
    transaxle. The car gearing is different, and not suited to the van.
    Dave Gower, Dec 23, 2003
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    Oppie Guest

    Things like this really hurt. Got 205k miles on it and have kept up with the
    maintenance and repairs. Everything is in remarkably good shape (with
    exception of dead motor). Even for $950 to get a used motor with a 90 day
    warranty is probably reasonable (shows that the vendor has some trust in
    their wares).

    I just wanted to be sure that a '89 chrysler 2.5L motor will be compatible
    with anything newer that I can find in the same displacement.

    The original motor was professionally rebuilt at a shop for $1300 at 153k
    miles. Had to replace the cylinder head gasket once after that... Such is
    life. Thanks for the reply.

    Oppie, Dec 23, 2003
  5. Yep, clear on up through the last use of that engine in '95. Do a quick
    search at www.car-part.com , searchable used auto parts nationwide, and
    you ought to be able to find a good used engine near you for fair money.

    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 23, 2003
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    Rick Blaine Guest

    Professionally rebuilt at 153k and it only lasted another 52k miles? I
    don't think I'd go back to that "professional" again.
    Rick Blaine, Dec 23, 2003
  7. Hasn't your van got an engine temperature gauge? ...Shouldn't you have
    been keeping a periodic eye on it?
    There's no '97 engine that is interchangeable with the 2.5 litre in your

    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 23, 2003
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    Oppie Guest

    It was the base model without the gauge package. Only the idiot light.
    Temperature sender must have been defective since it never lit the
    temperature warning light. I am almost anal-retentive about watching
    whatever instrumentation there is available.

    Thanks for the lead about Car-part.com. Unlike Cherry-Auto.com, you can
    search by area and avoid shipping costs.

    When having the motor previously rebuilt, I found two local rebuilders. Both
    were recommended by others. One had a terrible mess in his shop. The other
    was a spotless operation that you could eat off the floor (should you ever
    desire to). Both quoted same prices so I went with the latter. Go figure...
    If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all <grin>

    Could have sworn that one junkyard said a '97 would fit. I could have heard
    wrong, I tend to turn into a blithering idiot when under stress.

    Happy Holidays to all,

    Oppie, Dec 23, 2003
  9. Argh. Yeah, the problem is that the sensor's meant to sense the
    temperature of water, not of air. If there was a massive enough loss of
    coolant that the temp sensor was seeing air and not water, it never
    would've lit, and the "TEMP" light would have fiddled while the engine
    I have had *really* good luck with car-part.com.
    They probably thought you had a 3-litre V6, in which case a '97 would fit.
    But the 2.5 was replaced by the noncompatible 2.4 for '96.

    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 24, 2003
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    patrick Guest

    Find a nearby junkyard, this motor goes for $400-600 here in SoCal. Might
    want to get a temp gauge while you're at the junkyard; better than the idiot

    Good luck,
    patrick, Dec 24, 2003
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    Jim Polaski Guest

    I wouldn't try to put another engine in. FWIW, a good buddy blew the
    engine on his Voyager and bought a cheap rebuild. He went for price and
    not a good warrantee. The second blew too in a short time. I told him
    about a shop near me(Chicago) and it was a bit more, but he declined.
    So, he then bought a second engine...for the right price later.
    Jim Polaski, Dec 24, 2003
  12. I think the Blue Book of another '89 minivan like yours is about $900. My
    advice is
    that if your van is straight, never been in an accident, fairly clean, that
    you can sell it
    for at least $200 via private sale in it's current condition. Someone will
    buy it and part
    it out. Then take the $200 plus the $300 your contemplating on another
    engine, and
    use it as a down payment on a car loan for a '92 van with a lot less

    I've done the wrecking yard engine on one of my cars and it can be a real
    if your lucky. But it's a huge risk, and at the time I had an alternate car
    that I
    owned that ran fine and I just had parked, I would never have done this with
    a daily driver. It's a lot of work to do the in-and-out even with a hoist,
    etc. and
    you always end up buying a bunch of miscellaneous parts that jack up the

    If this van isn't required for a daily driver, then your best bet is being
    patient. Check
    out the auto auctions, call your insurance agent and ask about buying
    totaled cars,
    check out the automotive thrifties, etc. Look for a smashed van similar to
    yours with
    the same engine, that someone wants to get rid of for more than the $50- a-
    ton that
    a wrecker will pay them. You can pull the entire engine/trans combo out of
    that and
    swap it in, plus all the glass, seats, other misc parts, then throw the
    blown - up engine
    into the back of the carcass and haul it down to the wrecker for the same
    $50 -a- ton.
    Your going to get an extra tranny out of the deal plus a good stock of

    Ted Mittelstaedt, Dec 24, 2003
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    Oppie Guest

    All good information and thanks to all that responded.

    Thankfully, while it was our daily driver, we also have an '85 VW GTI which
    is in reasonable shape. Was my son's old car but we kept it since it has a
    trailer hitch and used it for light towing.
    Our plant is closed for the holidays, so I'm going to do a bit more damage
    assessment on the old motor though I'm pretty sure that it is gone. Past
    that, local taxes are due in mid Janruary and after that we will see about
    either a replacement motor or another vehicle. Some of the new cars have
    really low finance rates and we'll see what is affordable. Most likely will
    just get a newer used vehicle.


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    Oppie, Dec 24, 2003
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