Engine Modesty Cover Serves a Useful Purpose

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Nomen Nescio, Nov 7, 2003.

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    Nomen Nescio Guest

    At first glance the plastic valence that you now see in all late models to
    cover the engine compartment from view would seem to serve no purpose. Why
    in the world would Chrysler spend money that would otherwise be available
    to lower the cost of its product, or better yet, buy a second fuel pump for
    the fuel tank so you don't get stranded down the road some day? After some
    reflection, I realize the brilliance of this useless piece of vestigial
    polymer!

    Think, "No user serviceable parts inside this unit". When the owner lifts
    the hood, he is instantly intimidated. He will not ever attempt to do even
    the simplest routine maintenance or minor repairs as in the days of old.
    Not even an oil change or spark plug replacement. Chrysler has brilliantly
    planned it that way; every customer is now locked into $75 per hour shop
    rate for literally everything. If Chrysler is smart, they will make the
    crankcase drain plug of a trick design requiring a special tool available
    only to licensed dealers, to release it. That'll put the cabosh on those
    20 Minute oil change joints as well as Saturday mechanics in one fell
    swoop.

    You see now, Chrysler is cost conscious. They invest say $15 covering the
    mechanicals and get 100 times in returns for their dealerships and take a
    piece of the action for themselves as well. Its legal, for now, but there
    might be a legal theory to abate it.

    How do you suppose it got started and how wide spread is this new approach
    to business? Probably with consumer electronics. Not too long ago, TVs
    were full of vacuum tubes. When your set quit, you would take out all the
    tubes and test them at Thrifty Cut-Rate Drug Store. Replace the bad ones
    and the set was usually good for another six months or a year. But today's
    sets have only one vacuum tube in them. Nothing to fix. Therefore the
    maker puts this little tag on the back and tells you not to open up the set
    because its futile. You need to throw it away when it breaks down and buy
    new. This concept has now spread to cars and most other products that
    owners once tinkered with. Take the Ducati Monster 800 motorbike. The
    owner's manual instructs you to have the oil changed at the bike shop. You
    are not invited to do so yourself. Presumably you jeapordize the warranty
    if you do so yourself. I think car companies are going in the same
    direction.

    They just about have to because they aren't making the money on selling new
    cars. By getting the dealers to do virtually all the work, they will keep
    their dealers healthy and the dealers will sell far more genuine factory
    parts, locking out the 3rd parties. Everything will be O.E.M. and that
    means profits. They will make profit on the back end instead of the front
    end. That is my conclusion.

    But there is a downside to purposely making servicing more difficult than
    it needs to. Since servicing will now be very much more expensive and for
    the second-hand market, prohibitively so, much servicing will be neglected.
    Letting parts like spark plugs, wires, belts, and hoses go is going to lead
    to sudden breakdowns and accidents as a result. This will come back to the
    makers as bad will, reputation for unreliability, high maintenance costs,
    and just plain cursing. Overall, it would seem the manufacturers will be
    the losers in this game of cat and mouse. Given that this might be
    considered bad faith action by manufacturers, there is the potential for
    class action lawsuits to abate policies that are contrary to public
    interests. Watch out Chrysler! Some of your customers are lawyers and
    ready for action.

    To illustrate just how much worse the serviceability has gotten just look
    at the Bosch Jetronic fuel injection system. You could yank out every
    injector with a pull for testing the spray patterns (qantity & quality)
    into test tubes. One jumper and you could energize the pump for testing.
    One pull on the air flow plate with a pair of pliers and you could actuate
    the injection system and make the injectors spray for testing. The only
    instruments needed to do a complete check was a fuel pressure gauge and a
    test light or voltmeter. The whole system was intuitive and documentation
    was complete, right down to temperature/pressure graphs. And one more
    thing, every part was out in the open for service, no valence covers. Try
    that with todays EFI system. Its utterly hopeless. Time for action, I say.
     
    Nomen Nescio, Nov 7, 2003
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    Mike Hall Guest

    I would suspect that the majority of 'new car' owners do not service their
    own cars, so the presence of a cover only serves to make the engine look a
    little less agricultural in appearence.. when showing their pride and joy to
    neighbours, they can quote big numbers while looking at the sleek design..
    for those that do maintenance themselves, if they can't remove the cover,
    they should not be doing any repair work..
     
    Mike Hall, Nov 8, 2003
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  3. JUMP on Chrysler. Yea. Well, for your information, GM has been doing
    this FOR YEARS. If you can't figure out how to get the covers off,
    keep your cotten picken fingers off of the engine. You complain about
    the few pennies it cost to put the covers on and you want to add a
    $150+ fuel pump redundancy system that is not needed. HOW MANY fuel
    pumps go out early, and WHAT IS EARLY? The same people who have fuel
    pump problems are the same people who always run thier fuel tank to
    the E and under constantly and wonder WHY the pump goes bad.
    DUH!!!!!!
     
    Richard Benner Jr, Nov 10, 2003
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  4. You give Chrysler more credit than they deserve. The cover is basically
    there for cost and cosmetics. It makes the enginer compart look pretty
    for the cost of a plastic tray. They don't have to paint of polish any
    of the engine compartment pieces to make them look good. Those covers come
    off eaisly enough that they won't be thwarting any home mechanic from
    performing basic maintenance. If anything, this might scare off the really
    incompetent persons who should not be messing with stuff in the engine
    compartment without some guidance.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Nov 11, 2003
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  5. If this is really an issue, then it points to poor fuel system design.
    It would be stupid on the part of an engineer to expect a car owner to
    keep their tank filled above a certain level. If fuel pump cooling when
    the tank is low is really an issue, they should figuer out a way to keep
    the pump cool when the tank is running low.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Nov 11, 2003
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    damnnickname Guest

    MAYBE YOU SHOULD WRITE YOUR CONGRESSMAN AND PASS A LAW AGAINST IT< GEEEEEES
    I HOPE I NEVER HAVE YOUR CAR IN THE SHOP
    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    damnnickname, Nov 13, 2003
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