Engine immobilizers: Some recent model vehicles either don't have them- or they don't work???

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by MoPar Man, Apr 15, 2008.

  1. MoPar Man

    MoPar Man Guest

    This story is also making the rounds on the TV network news up here

    It's not clear to me if some newer vehicles (like 2005 Chevy Avalanche
    and others) have potentially faulty immobilizers, or they plain just
    don't have them.

    Do they have a 1 in 60 (or better) chance of being stolen because that
    is the failure rate of their immobilizers, or because they simply
    don't have an immobilizer. ?



    The top 150 vehicles listed include 2005-or-later models of the
    Chevrolet Avalance, GMC Jimmy, Jeep Cherokee, Chevrolet Blazer,
    Pontiac Grand Am, GMC Envoy, Ford F250 and Chevy Trailblazer. All
    have odds of one-in-60 or greater chance of being stolen.

    "What we are seeing is some of the newer-line Chevy products that
    reflect the fact that the immobilizer system within those vehicles
    does not meet the North American standard, and that's exactly why we
    haven't reflected them in the rate reduction," said Douglas.

    "What we are seeing is proof of the fact that those vehicles can be

    Peter Dunwoody, who lives in Brandon, found out the hard way that his
    vehicle wasn't protected. After returning from a tour of duty in
    Afghanistan two weeks ago, his wife picked him up in their brand-new
    Chevy Avalanche, and they spent the night at a Winnipeg hotel.

    "The next morning I went to go out and get a coffee, and the truck was
    gone," he told the CBC.

    Their model didn't appear on MPI's most-at-risk list in 2006, but on
    the new list it ranks 38th, with a one-in-14 chance of being stolen.

    Dunwoody said he might have thought twice about purchasing the vehicle
    if he'd known its odds of being stolen were higher.

    "I don't think it's right that a person would even have to consider
    their vehicle because of the popularity of theft. It never really
    crossed our minds at all," he said.

    Douglas noted that older vehicles are still the primary target of auto
    thieves: "[Older cars] continue to make up more than 50 per cent of
    the thefts."
    MoPar Man, Apr 15, 2008
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  2. Hi!
    That is true no matter what kind of vehicle it is. I think GM said it best
    in their owner's manuals, which have stated for years that nothing they
    could put on the vehicle would make it impossible to steal.

    William R. Walsh, Apr 15, 2008
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  3. MoPar Man

    MoPar Man Guest

    Not if we're considering the most common thief - a teenage male
    looking for a joyride.

    And in that situation, the engine immobilizer will prevent theft every

    And when the young punks get to know which vehicles have them, they
    don't have to force their way into your vehicle just to discover they
    can't steal it. So you are protected from dammage caused by attempted
    theft just because of the reputation of your vehicle's make and model.
    That is a cop-out for them - a self-serving statement.

    The truth is that immobilizers stop the most common type of theivery -
    the punks who take their friends on a joyride.

    Those stupid fools who own:

    - 2005-or-later models of the Chevrolet Avalance
    - GMC Jimmy
    - Jeep Cherokee
    - Chevrolet Blazer
    - Pontiac Grand Am
    - GMC Envoy
    - Ford F250
    - Chevy Trailblazer

    I'm sure wouldn't mind if their vehicle had an immobilizer. Note how
    most of those are GM vehicles.

    Insurance companies also reduce the premiums for vehicles that have
    MoPar Man, Apr 15, 2008
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