Drip Gas is in the news

From the Net, drip gasoline

It finds its way into your gasoline, particularly from "off brands."

The reason for this post is bring to your attention that there is no single
formula for motor fuel in the United States. This needs to be addressed.
Gasoline varies by region, climate, season, refiner and seller! You do not
know WTF goes into your tank. No wonder when you floorboard that '70
Trans-Am, it pings like you're running on the octane rating of cow piss.
It's drip gas the culprit.

The solution is entirely in the hands of the Federal Government. Aviation
gasoline is made to a Federally approved formula. 80-87, for example, is
the same in Los Angeles as in Miami, summer or winter, Chevron or Union 76.
No 80-87 aviation gas can be sold unless it strictly meets the Federal
specification for it. That's the way your auto gas MUST be refined, to a
uniform, strict formula. Then you will get uniform performance from any
pump in the Country. Drip gas will be a footnote in history. And a side
benefit, you will never, ever have fuel injector clogging again in your
lifetime.

 

In todays EPA world in the US, the gasoline that is pumped throughout the
country is the all the SAME. Once it gets to the terminal the retailer
adds what ever is required to meet the specs for the gasoline required to be
sold in that area, based on altitude, environmental regs etc. Different
brands add what ever particular additional additive(so) it chooses to
distinguish its brand.


mike hunt

 

It's a good thing you posted this here. We will take care of it immediately.
Thanks again. You may have just saved the world.

Dave

 

LMFAO!

 

Not true. All gas is NOT the same.
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/gasoline-faq/part1/

 

While this might be true within a partuiuclar region, there ae regional
differences in gasoline. The EPA mandates this. See
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Files/US Gasoline Map 100102.pdf (or
http://tinyurl.com/hdayf )

Also see:

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/GFM/Products_Services/Fuels/Gasoline_FAQ.asp
(or http://tinyurl.com/h6xan )
http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/fuels/gas_qanda/reform.shtml (or
http://tinyurl.com/hkjp7 )
API Site - http://tinyurl.com/hgvdb

 

I wouldn't claim that ALL gas is the same, but I would not be surprised
if a given "base" gasoline of an appropriate octane rating could be
turned into Mobil or Shell or Amoco or whatever simply by adding the
correct amount of a concentrate containing the additives specific to
that particular brand.

Example: Nor far from me is a seller of "bulk petroleum products." They
have pumps with their own name on, from which they dispense fuel to
trucking companies, to schools for their buses, etc. Immediately
adjacent, with no fence between, is a BP gas station, and the name on
the office/convenience store is that of the aforementioned seller of
"bulk petroleum products."

Is it unreasonable for me to assume that the BP/Amoco gas that they sell
is simply the no-name gas with the appropriate additives added.

Perce

 

That is true for what comes out at the pump, but what comes out of the
pipeline at the terminal is indeed EXACTLY the same since EPA regulations
when in effect. There is no longer something known a 'plug gas,' that was
once bought off by independents. Do a search of the Petroleum Industry site
and see for yourself.


mike hunt

 

I am an environmental attorney who helped establish the fuel quality program
for my state and currently represent several fuel distributors and dealer
groups in my state.

While it is true that there many be little brand difference in the raw fuel
at the terminal, it is also true that branded gas gets a special "hamburger
helper" additive package for two reasons. 1. So that the brand owner can
trace its product to make sure branded dealers are not taking in non-branded
product on the side. 2. To meet specific marketing objectives related to
characteristics of the fuel (octane and valve cleaning characteristics are
most common).

But fuel coming from a refinery is very different from area to area in such
significant areas as volatility, for example, to meet specific EPA mandated
weather related issues to keep down hydrocarbon pollution).

The majors that operate refineries swap product so that their dealers
typically get product delivered from the most economical source.

Richard.

 

Good job!

 

You misunderstand - look at who started this thread, then look at about 500
of his posts. Your attempts to carry on a debate just won't work.

 

Perhaps my post was not clear on the point. I suppose if I said 'what comes
out of the pipeline at the terminal, in specific areas, is indeed EXACTLY
the same,' it would have been better. The fact is pipeline companies no
longer pump specific amounts of brand 'X' the brand 'Y' then brand 'Z' as
the did before EPA regs went into effect, OK?


mike hunt