doesn't sound the way it used to

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by marks89lebaron, Mar 29, 2005.

  1. I'm posting this message as a last ditch effort before having to pay full
    blown shop prices. Given the fact that a mechanic won't even look at a
    car anymore for less than a few hundred bucks I'd rather deal with the
    grease and broken knuckles if I could just figure out what I had to do.
    My 89 lebaron w\2.5Lturbo quit a few days ago and won't start again. I
    don't know how many people reading this may or may not have experienced
    what it's like to have his\her car die and then, upon turning the key in
    the ignition, the engine "CRANKS" (NOT START OR RUN) over, sounding
    differently than it had all it's life. And by different I don't mean low
    battery or dragging starter kind of different, I mean the sound where you
    think to yourself "oh sh__, my timing belt has broken or slipped". That's
    the kind of sickly sound my engine makes now when cranking it over. And
    basically that's the best starting point I have to work with right now.
    ALL OTHER SUSPECTS have been checked and cleared. Gas, spark, battery,
    etc. It's obvious that the bottom half of the engine isn't jiving with
    the top half but I can't figure out how or why. I've checked the belt and
    re-checked the belt and checked TDC with corresponding mark and then did it
    over again with no results. Any ideas about what to do next? Faulty
    sensor? The top half of chrysler's 2.5L engine is designed to never bump
    heads with the bottom half which I'm thankful for, yet is it likely that a
    valve may be otherwise damaged? Thanks for any input.
     
    marks89lebaron, Mar 29, 2005
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  2. marks89lebaron

    maxpower Guest

    When you checked the marks for cam and crank, did you go the next step and
    remove the distributor cap and make sure its at number one cylinder?
     
    maxpower, Mar 29, 2005
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  3. marks89lebaron

    Bob Shuman Guest

    From your description it sounds like the timing belt broke. When was it
    last changed? Have you looked under the cover
     
    Bob Shuman, Mar 29, 2005
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  4. Good. Suffer. I'm not sure why you post here; you don't listen when people
    tell you how to fix your car.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Mar 29, 2005
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  5. I checked the timing by bringing #1 to TDC on the compression stroke and
    then verifying that the cam-gears' identifying mark (notch or whatever its
    called) was in the center of the little open window on the timing belt
    cover. I did have a little trouble getting the jist of exactly where TDC
    was. I used a wooden dowel to find the pistons' top height (I suppose
    everyone does) but I have a hard time gauging the exact center of where
    the piston-ends its stroke and begins the journey back down again, as
    there is about a 1/4" (one tooth worth) of play where the dowel sits
    level. It's hard to decide if the belt jumped one tooth or if its' at
    home. Sound stupid? This whole thing has made me stupid. Maybe I'll
    just buy a moped.
     
    marks89lebaron, Mar 29, 2005
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  6. marks89lebaron

    maxpower Guest

    Sounds like a plan!!
     
    maxpower, Mar 29, 2005
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  7. marks89lebaron

    eldred30 Guest

    You might pull all the plugs and then verify that each cylinder "sucks
    and blows" when you crank it over. That's the way we diagnosed the
    problem in my sons 83 Chrysler E Class, 4 cylinder when it broke a rod.
    eldred
     
    eldred30, Mar 31, 2005
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  8. marks89lebaron

    Joe Guest

    Try a compression tester before you do anything more. If the compression is
    okay, then your noise, whatever it is, is happening outside the confines of
    block/heads.

    You could have a huge intake leak, for instance. Maybe it sucked in a
    mouthful of gasket!
     
    Joe, Apr 1, 2005
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