Dems take Congress, syn fuels will be reality

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by DeserTBoB, Nov 8, 2006.

  1. DeserTBoB

    DeserTBoB Guest

    Now that the "Republipedo" party is washed up, watch for Congressional
    pushes on ALL auto makers doing business in the US for alternative
    fuel vehicles. Ford's well positioned and is probably further ahead
    than anyone else on hydrogen fuel cells. Infrastructure will be the
    big bugaboo. E85 will now start marching toward the coasts. Again,
    Ford is building the most "switch fuel" vehicles that can handle 100%
    ethanol.

    Winners: Ford, Democrats, America

    Losers: Republicans, Bush, Rove, Cheney, Halliburton, "Big Oil"
     
    DeserTBoB, Nov 8, 2006
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  2. Quit pumping the stock you just bought...
     
    NowItsWhatever, Nov 8, 2006
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  3. DeserTBoB

    Bob Snyder Guest

    There is a great article in Mopar Action magazine's Feb '07 issue (on the
    newstands now) titled "Boozepower" that is worth reading. It explores some
    of the truths and myths associated with alcohol blends.

    Pay particular attention to the data about how much energy is contained in
    some quantity of each fuel and how much energy is required to produce that
    said amount.

    The move toward Ethanol may be more of a vote-getter than we realize. It
    certainly isn't about reducing dependency on foreign oil or consumer costs.

    The issue's index can be viewed at:

    http://www.moparaction.com/Next/next.html

    My 2 cents,

    Bob
     
    Bob Snyder, Nov 10, 2006
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  4. DeserTBoB

    DeserTBoB Guest

    Hardly a credible scientific publication.

    Next?
     
    DeserTBoB, Nov 11, 2006
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  5. DESERTBOB (not its real name) is a troll.
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    duty-honor-country, Nov 11, 2006
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  6. you DUMB ASS- synthetic fuels cost even more to produce than petroleum
    based gasoline- and already the sugar growers in USA have established a
    cartel to limit imports of cheap foreign cane, so they can maintain
    market share- the people DEFENDING that cartel, are DEMOCRATS
     
    duty-honor-country, Nov 11, 2006
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  7. he's really a dumb fucker, isn't he...any alternative fuel would only
    be adopted and produced by the big oil companies anyway, they own all
    the transport pipelines and filling station chains
     
    duty-honor-country, Nov 11, 2006
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  8. anything that comes out that is an improvement, we ALL benefit from- a
    Republican can fill his car up with ethanol and enjoy clean air the
    same as you can...only his car will be a Cadillac limousine, while
    your's will be the same old POS rotted 1978 Honda....

    (laughter...)
     
    duty-honor-country, Nov 11, 2006
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Hmmm - sounds interesting. Got names, sources?

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Nov 11, 2006
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    Greg Houston Guest

    Actually the wall street journal had published some articles in the last 90's
    and the early 2000's about the big sugar cartel and their strong & successful
    lobby effort for high sugar import tariffs/low import quotas. They were
    strong supporters of then President, but they probably support whoever
    protects their interests.
     
    Greg Houston, Nov 11, 2006
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  11. DeserTBoB

    Greg Houston Guest

    make that late 90's. :)
     
    Greg Houston, Nov 11, 2006
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    Some O Guest

    According to a recent Consumer Reports E85 fuels will increase the
    buying of excessively large vehicles, with which the buyers won't be
    using E85 fuel.
    They have a good point.
    E85 appears to be mainly to reduce USA imports of oil.
     
    Some O, Nov 12, 2006
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    Bob Snyder Guest

    DeserTBoB,

    Glad to see you took the time to read the article before responding. Are
    all of your opinions so well researched and developed?

    As a periodic contributor to this...a Chrysler discussion group...it would
    seem that some of the others here are similarly Mopar fans who may in fact
    value the whit and enlightement of the publication to which I refer. In
    your attempt to dismiss me, you also dismiss them.

    Regardless of the opinions of others who seemed to express some disgust with
    your views, I am willing to consider your input as an opinion to which you
    are entitled. If you really want to be taken seriously, however, you must
    at least have the decency to allow others to hold their and sometimes
    contrasting opinions.

    I continue to recommend that you find a copy of that publication and read
    the connected to the sidebar. It echos the scientific research I've also
    found in many other publicaitons (yes, I read them, too), some of which you
    might consider more credible.

    Fact: There is very little consensus regarding the merits of Ethenol. Some
    data finds it takes more energy to produce than a similar quanitiry of
    gasoline. More interesting, however, is that some other data finds that it
    actually takes more energy to make a gallon than that gallon gives back.

    If you were a business person, you wouldn't buy something at a wholesale
    price that is higher than you could get for it at retail unless it were for
    some otehr purpose, perhaps as a price leader drawing business to other
    items in your store.

    At it relates to Ethanol, politicians in Ethanol source states certainly
    have a reason to support it (votes), but I'm not sure it really provides the
    purported benefits of reducing our reliance on foreign energy sources. It
    clearly can't sustain the claim that it's cheaper to produce and prices
    should go down. that dog simply don't hunt.

    Bob
     
    Bob Snyder, Nov 18, 2006
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Shhh! Let sleeping dogs lie! :)

    He was just using this as a political blog before the elections.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Nov 18, 2006
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    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Ya think? ;-)
     
    aarcuda69062, Nov 18, 2006
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