Damn Bendix 10 ABS!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by sctvguy1, Sep 24, 2010.

  1. sctvguy1

    sctvguy1 Guest

    I have a pristine 1991 New Yorker 5th Avenue, and it has had the #685 recall
    done twice! Now, the brake pedal is going to the floor(new calipers, pads,
    rotors a month ago). Do you think that Chrysler is going to honor the
    recall "lifetime" replacement? This car is beautiful, gets 22-25mgp around
    town with the 3.8, leather, etc. I would hate to see this car go the scrap
    yard because no one can fix the brake problem endemic to 90-93 Chryslers
    with ABS. Wish it were a lower line without the ABS and just the regular
    power brakes.
    sctvguy1, Sep 24, 2010
  2. I have read about owners of this model converting to a conventional braking
    system by using parts from a donor non-ABS car.

    It might be worth considering if you wish to keep it.

    Kirk Matheson, Sep 24, 2010
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    sctvguy1 Guest

    I saw that article on Allpar, and it is super complicated! I don't have the
    money to have it done by a regular shop(if they would even do it because of
    the liability issues concerning brakes). I cannot do that kind of job
    myself, but it looks like that someone could run with the ball and do this
    conversion for owners like myself.
    sctvguy1, Sep 25, 2010
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    Steve Newman Guest

    Are you sure you haven't blown a line somewhere? When the Bendix 10
    puump/motor went bad
    in my 1992, the pedal feel was still quite hard, and you had to "stand on
    it" to get any brake action at all since
    the pump wasn't supplying any pressure. Can you hear the growl of the pump
    Steve Newman, Sep 25, 2010
  5. sctvguy1

    sctvguy1 Guest

    Yes, the pump is running to raise the pressure. My mechanic checked
    everything, replace the flex hoses, etc. Thinking of checking the rear
    brakes, pads, springs, cylinders, etc. Is there anything else that might be
    doing this? He recommended a complete brake line flush. The "brake" and
    "ABS' lights do not come on on the dash, so this has me stumped.
    sctvguy1, Sep 25, 2010
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    Steve Newman Guest

    Sorry I can't be of more help but the Bendix 10 monstrosity is way beyond my
    capability. Sounds like you need a Chrysler mechanic who is intimately
    experienced with it if anyone is left who is.
    Steve Newman, Sep 25, 2010
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    MoPar Man Guest

    Do you have a solid brake pedal when the engine is turned off, but it
    becomes soft and goes to the floor when the engine is running?

    A friend had a problem like that when he was rebuilding his '70
    Cutlass. I think the problem was in the brake booster or the rod
    connecting the brake booster to the master brake cylinder actuator
    MoPar Man, Sep 25, 2010
  8. sctvguy1

    sctvguy1 Guest

    Exactly. The pedal is "hard" normal when the engine if off, but becomes so
    low when the engine is on. The trouble is, MoPar Man, the master cylinder
    and the ABS are all ONE HUGE UNIT! I have heard that without the recall,
    the whole thing is like $1600! I thought about that the fluid was leaking
    back from the master cyliner piston rod into the unit, but it is all one,
    and therefore, it would have to be replaced as one. What a POS system!
    The only reason I got this gem was to have a "drive to the doctor car with
    A/C". My only other car, besides my wife's 2010 Avenger is a 1941 Windsor,
    wool seats and no A/C. It is a bitch to even drive it down US1 and back
    for a short outing without taking a shower in your clothes(Hobe Sound, South
    sctvguy1, Sep 25, 2010
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    rob Guest

    something i am curious about......try pulling the vacuum hose off the brake
    booster with the engine off and stick a long wire tie or wire or something
    to use as a make shift "dipstick" down inside the vacuum brake booster.
    see if you have any brake fluid leaking into the booster in other words.

    not saying that's your issue just something worth looking into.
    rob, Sep 25, 2010
  10. sctvguy1

    sctvguy1 Guest

    The "booster" is a sealed, nitrogen canister with about 1600 psi. There is
    no conventional "round" booster. If I had one of those, I would be happy,
    easy to fix and/or replace. There is an article on the Imperial Club
    website that shows where someone changed over to regular power brakes, but
    it is WAY too complicated, and he warns that this should not be done by
    anything other than an expert mechanic. So, that leaves me SOL!
    sctvguy1, Sep 25, 2010
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