crankshaft damper stuck with crankshaft sprocket

Hi, I got an issue:
I got a stratus es 1996 2.5 V6 AC.
I need to change the water pump.
So I'm @ removing the crankshaft damper pulley but the freaking thing
is stuck to the sprocket. ASA I pull the pulley, I can see from
underneath the timing belt, the bearing and the sprocket being pulled
off with the damper.
Now I don't want to pull the whole thing @ one since I don't want
to screw-up the timing between the two camshafts.
So, should I give a big bang with a huge hammer on the darn thing loll?
PLZ help

Thanks

 

Why not set the timing up at the proper marks (top dead center) even if you
have to put a dab of paint on the sprockets in case they move. Then remove
the pulley and separate the sprocket once it is off?

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler tech

 

The problem is the timing belt is in the cover and I don't have full
access to timing belt (So I can't mark it yet)
The only cover I was able to remove it the top-right which shows only
one of the camshaft sprockets

maxpower a écrit :

 

The problem is the timing belt is in the cover and I don't have full
access to timing belt (So I can't mark it yet)
The only cover I was able to remove it the top-right which shows only
one of the camshaft sprockets

maxpower a écrit :

If the 2 cam shafts pulley's are lined up at TDC then the bottom will be
lined up at TDC also. If it moves on you before you get it apart you can
look at the arrow and set it back when you are getting ready to set the
belt. I know what you are talking about I have seen this so many times and
broke covers before because it would not separate

Glenn

 

Hi, what I had to do is remove the timing belt directly from the
camshaft.
Before doing it, I've marked the belt, camshaft n the motor so I'll be
able to align all 3.
Once the crankshaft damper was removed, I got access to the last couple
of bolt to slack the upper right n left timing belt cover, removed the
tensioner pulley and voila: got access to the water pump. MY GOAL
YEAA!!
Now I think the hardest part is to come: put everything back lolll!

Is the sprocket press inserted in the damper? The darn thing doesn't
want to separate agrrr.
I would like to separate them so it's easier to reinstall n align the
timing belt.
I was thinking of torching the crankshaft and cold freezing the
sprocket with an air compressed can (upside down, it shoots pure liquid
azotes hehe!)
Any suggestion?
I've purchased a 3 jaw puller and a harmonic balancer for nothing. I
think I'll return them.
Is crankshaft damper and harmonic balancer the same? Why the different
terminology

 

The sprocket is not pressed on. it just slides on and off. A puller would
probably get it off but will damage it.

Glenn

 

Hum... then I'm wondering why it's so stuck. Might be rust.
Then how should I allign the timing belt on the sprocket if the
crankshaft damper is in the way?
thanks a million for your help!

 

I have no idea what kind of tools you have access to, a bearing separator
would work as I have used in the past. Im sure if you need to get it off you
will find a way to do it. I would suggest soaking it really good with
penetrating oil

 

I saw Kano Kroil is very good @ it.
How a bearing separator could help me in pulling the sprocket from the
damper?
The only knotch I can see on the sprocket is the the one that keeps the
timing belt in place on the sprocket

 

http://www.grainger.com/industrial-supplies/PullersandSeparators1A807.html

 

I've seen it before but the sprocket "groove" is not thick enough to
support the pull effect and I think it would break.
Man it's sooo frustrating!!
The water pump is installed but still the sprocket doesn't want to get
out of the damper.
I've tried with a 3 jaws puller and it broke part of the outer "grove"
(because the groove is not thick enough for the pull pression)
I've tried torching it but I think I need something more powerful than
a propane torch
Tried to hit it with a rubber hammer after soaking it in light oil,
didn't move a bit.
I think what I'll do is screw a thick O ring then use it with the 3
jaw puller.
Any other suggestions?
Thanks

 

I've seen it before but the sprocket "groove" is not thick enough to
support the pull effect and I think it would break.
Man it's sooo frustrating!!
The water pump is installed but still the sprocket doesn't want to get
out of the damper.
I've tried with a 3 jaws puller and it broke part of the outer "grove"
(because the groove is not thick enough for the pull pression)
I've tried torching it but I think I need something more powerful than
a propane torch
Tried to hit it with a rubber hammer after soaking it in light oil,
didn't move a bit.
I think what I'll do is screw a thick washer then use it with the 3
jaw puller.
Any other suggestions?
Thanks

 

Sorry...you left yourself wide open here. Sounds like a great idea to
me.

 

Umm - yeah - if you're going to do that, use the right size o-ring and
some K-Y.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

 

Funny guy loll. I guess it could have sound sexual.
Bill Putney a écrit :

 

Finely the procket gave-up after.
Sat one day in sprayon S00103 and it pop-up this morning. This stuff is
amazgin!
Now I got another problem: the timing belt cover is still on the
camshaft. It's stuck between accessorie pulley and the camshaft.
The accessorie pulley got some rear bolt that I'm not able to reach.
I would like not to destroy the cover but if I need to, no choice.
Any ideas guys?
Thanks

 

get a repair manual for the year and make vehicle you are working on,
and follow the procedure- there will be a step by step method to do it-
if you just jump in without reading the procedure first, you risk
breaking something- or spending a lot of labor and aggravation trying
to get something off, that needs a special tool or technique and comes
off quite easily

 

ohh I got the manual all right but you know how it goes:" remove bolt
1 2 3, and remove the cover.
Wright!! Remove cover; how the hell can you remove a cover when it's
stuck between an accessories pulley (that can't be removed since there
are 2 bolts unreachable) and the camshaft (the right one)
Well, I just toke a crow bar and crack the dam thing. I was able to set
the cam n crank to TDC, reinstalled the timing belt, did 3-4 manual
full crankshaft revolution, compared the marks to make sure I didn't
take inconsideration the timing belt slack (and the marks were wright
on the spot), put everything else in place (except the dam covers), put
new oil (since it was needed) and new prestone
And voila: cars turns on and no problem to start.
Acceleration A1. Just some noise on the serpentine belt (was a bit
slack n a small adjustment removed the noise)

Do I really need the covers? I know it's better so the timing belt is
not subject to nature element. Do you think it would be enough is I
install a full cover under the car so water, rocks etc couldn't get
into the belts?

Cheers

 

Charlie Nudo, aka , should be put on your
kill file list. He is a troll, and since you are in Europe, he wants
to try to prove that Euros are stupid. In reality, he's the stupid
one.

It would be nice to have the covers on just for the reason stated.
But, as you found out, the cover is a problem for installation on
these!

 

hum.. i'm not in europe, I'm in montreal/quebec

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