Convertible top leak

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Bob, Jan 6, 2006.

  1. Bob

    Bob Guest

    I have a 2001 Sebring convertible, which has started to leak, on the
    drivers side, at the seam where the convertible top butts into the corner of
    the window frame. I have tried to adjust the latch, but it is already
    screwed in as far as it can go.

    Are there any other adjustments possible or do I need to replace something?

    Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

    Bob
     
    Bob, Jan 6, 2006
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  2. Bob

    philthy Guest

    i'm surprised the latch adjustment u made did not make more leaks the seal might
    be out of place or collapsed and the window glass does have adjustment specs
    u might want to find a factory manual for this issue
     
    philthy, Jan 8, 2006
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  3. Bob

    Mr.X Guest


    I have a 05 Sebring

    Last Jan 2 & 3rd it was raining hard to moderate here in NYC, This
    time after a good hard downpour on the 2nd and staying dry during my
    45 minuet trip that night, I found the following morning on the 3rd
    of moderate rain I had a continuous drip down onto the area of the
    window up/down switches. The origin of the drip was from between
    the drivers "side glass" and the weather-stripping, in the area of
    where the drivers sun visor mounts to the pillar extending out from
    that point an inch up and down , This was not due to some water
    coming in initially when a door is opened on a frameless window
    convertible due to not having any drip rails like conventional cars
    OR the roof not being latched properly OR the window not being up
    fully OR the door not being fully closed. These conditions were
    considered as this drip continued for the entire 45 minuets of my
    trip.


    The weather stripping appears in good shape except for one
    possibility. The top weather stripping that meets the closed
    convertible roof appears to extend over the side glass on the
    passenger side , but on the divers side it appears to end in the
    center of the width of the side glass. This condition may have
    caused some water to flow being the weather strip V type flap that
    holds tight against the side glass. The option of a adjustment to
    the latch so it closes tighter may have no effect as the drip was
    at the side where a hinge adjustment would have more effect.

    I've been in it a couple of times when it was pouring out and no
    problems. the window switch area was filling with water such that I
    finally got a plastic bag and stuck one side of the bag into where
    the arm rest mounts to the door covering the switch area. I got
    the car new in late July 05, most of the week it's under a cover and
    I use it on weekends, On my next service visit I'll put this on
    the list.

    In doing some net research I found the following blurb,
    ""the dealer replaced the whole top on my car because one of the
    front-to-back tension pads tore loose, but at the same time they
    replaced the A-pillar weatherstrip "

    Right now I'm not too clear on what is a " A-pillar " or what is
    a " front-to-back tension pads " if someone could explain or
    direct me to a picture I'd appreciate it.
     
    Mr.X, Jan 9, 2006
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  4. Bob

    Dennis Guest

    Last Jan 2 & 3rd it was raining hard to moderate here in NYC, This
    We had the same problem on our 04 Sebring.
    Took it to the local dealer and he adjusted the top to fit down over the
    drivers window a little tighter.
    No leaks since.
     
    Dennis, Jan 10, 2006
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  5. Bob

    Mr.X Guest

    Thanks for the response. Does anyone know how this adjustment is done?
    Is it in the top latches or something in the folding frame top?
     
    Mr.X, Jan 11, 2006
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  6. Bob

    philthy Guest

    the a pillar is the side of the windshield and there is no front to rear tenson pads
    jsut front to rear ward top frame adjsutments for the tenson/contact of the top
    against the upper windshield weather seal
    when a dealer replaces the one seal if the seal has been revised with a new one then
    there is a good bet the rest have been revised and also need replacing and d/c
    warranty does cover it iknow i have done it and thats what the teach in the convert.
    top class take in and have them fix your leak
     
    philthy, Jan 15, 2006
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  7. Bob

    Mr.X Guest



    Thank you for taking the time to offer your expert advise on this
    and many other items.



     
    Mr.X, Jan 15, 2006
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  8. Bob

    Dennis Guest

    We had the same problem on our 04 Sebring.
    Don't know for certain, I know he made the adjustment on the front where the
    top joins the roll-over bar and I believe he mentioned that there was a
    second adjustment made which moved the top, forwards & backwards. As it was
    under warrantee, I wasn't really listening.

    Dennis
     
    Dennis, Jan 16, 2006
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  9. Bob

    Mr.X Guest


    is that windshield frame a roll over bar? I remember in the 70's
    the convertibles had a roll over bar - then I don't see them any
    more much. The roll over bar was that a law or just a owner installed
    extra?
     
    Mr.X, Jan 17, 2006
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  10. Bob

    ferretkona Guest

    No, a windshield frame will not protect in a turn over.
    The roll bars have not been a law. Due to pressure from the media, Jeep
    put them in. Some cars like the Mercedes have a automatic pop up roll
    bar. Some are optional from dealers and some are owner installed.
     
    ferretkona, Jan 17, 2006
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    bowgus Guest

    OT: About the jeep rollbar ... I have seen one collapsed a few years
    back when the roll occurred at highway speed ... the driver was killed.
    I keep meaning to look into this ... perhaps someone has info on "to
    what speed" those jeep rollbars are good to.
     
    bowgus, Jan 18, 2006
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  12. Bob

    Steve Guest

    Most of them were factory-installed placebos. They weren't tested or
    rated for rollover protection, but they "looked" safer than a completely
    open car.

    Even the Viper R/T 10s "halo bar" over the rear window wasn't
    technically called a "roll bar" because that would have opened up too
    many legal worm cans if someone were to be killed in a rollover. It was
    at least engineered to give *some* protection, most of the others weren't.

    And by the way- you'd be surprised how little protection a full roof
    gives in a rollover sometimes...
     
    Steve, Jan 18, 2006
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  13. Bob

    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    Interesting -- I had thought there were some liability cases that
    established that anything that looked like a roll bar needed to
    function as one, and calling it a light rack or something wouldn't
    help... (note the conspicuous lack of cites here, of course).
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Jan 18, 2006
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  14. Bob

    Remove This Guest

    Due to their poor performance in rollover tests, I believe !!!
     
    Remove This, Jan 18, 2006
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  15. Bob

    Mike Romain Guest

    Jeep never put a 'roll bar' into any stock product I am aware of. They
    put a 'sport' bar in that works very well for off road slow speed roll
    overs or tip overs.

    Even so most serious off roaders modify the sport bar and anchor it to
    the frame instead of just the body tub like it comes stock. This
    increases the strength. Lots make real roll cages too.

    I have my 'sport' bar tagged to my frame.

    Mike
    86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
    88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
    Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
    Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
    (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
     
    Mike Romain, Jan 18, 2006
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  16. Bob

    bob Guest

    Just for reference, my 1996 Chevy extended cab pickup has a (don't remember
    the exact name of the option) "hinged panel" and not a 3rd door. This was
    the first year Chevy put the 3rd door in the truck and the design didn't
    meet the standards for a "door" (I think relative to crush strength and
    such) so they couldn't call it a door. Maybe "roll bar" has a legal
    definition and standard.
     
    bob, Jan 18, 2006
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  17. Bob

    Guest Guest

    "And by the way- you'd be surprised how little protection a full roof
    gives in a rollover sometimes... "

    Especially when the windshield pops out- its a structural member.
    (I couldn't believe that when I first heard it...)

    Dave
     
    Guest, Jan 18, 2006
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  18. Bob

    Steve Guest

    Maybe that's why they called it a 'halo' bar. I don't honestly know, but
    I did just read a passage in a book about the fact that there was an
    internal argument between some guys at Chrysler over whether to include
    it or not. One camp thought that it detracted from a clean top-down
    look. The guy who prevailed was the one who had a had actual experience
    with building limited-production high-performance vehicles before, and
    felt that it was necessary because it offered some level of protection,
    and given the type of car there *would* be single car incidents that
    wound up with the wheels in the air. he must've seen Kelsey Grammer's
    name on the waiting list... :)
     
    Steve, Jan 18, 2006
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    Nate Nagel Guest

    That's why they're almost universally glued in now. They're designed to
    STAY in and add a little rigidity to the front of the roof.

    nate

    (strange but true...)
     
    Nate Nagel, Jan 19, 2006
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  20. Indeed. The rear head rests. They can be raised and lowered in 'normal'
    use. They pop up and lock in an emergency. This includes, I gather, the
    car being at an 'unnatural' angle.

    DAS

    For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
    ---

    [...]
    Some cars like the Mercedes have a automatic pop up roll
    [...]
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, Jan 19, 2006
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