chryslers crossfire

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RBG Z06

chrsylers new crossfire sure looks awesome! Does any one know how well
it compares to other sport cars.....ie stangs,vettes,vipers? What
price are they selling for? TIA
Ruben
 
RBG said:
chrsylers new crossfire sure looks awesome! Does any one know how well
it compares to other sport cars.....ie stangs,vettes,vipers? What
price are they selling for? TIA
Ruben

It's substantially slower than all the cars you mention above (unless
you're talking about the V6 Mustang). It's more expensive than a
Mustang (by a fairly wide margin) and cheaper than the others you
mention (also by a fairly wide margin). For the same (or less) money,
if you just want to go fast and have rear wheel drive sporty car, try:

Mustang
RX-8
350Z

Cheers,

C
 
Chris Mauritz said:
RBG Z06 wrote:
mention (also by a fairly wide margin). For the same (or less) money,
if you just want to go fast and have rear wheel drive sporty car, try:
Mustang
RX-8
350Z

I suppose the Crossfire, being a modified Merc SLK, will be faster
then the Mustang on narrow bending roads. But on a straight road..
the Mustang will blow away the crossfire.
Martin
 
It lists at $35,000 and EVERYTHING is standard equipment except for
the automatic transmission. It comes with Manual tranny.
 
The Crossfire comes with a 215 hp V6 engine. For $35+K, I would have hoped
for more power than a turbo PT Cruiser. It is definitely a "sporty" car but
doubt it matches the speed or handling of the cars in it's target group. A
friend who test drove one said it was so-so on speed and handling was good.
But...he is 6 ft tall and said it was damn near impossible to get in and out
and that his head hit the roof with the seat lowered and reclined some. A
nice boulevard cruiser for short people is the way he put it.
 
But isn't power delivery more uniform and smoother from the
normally-aspirated?

DAS
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CopperTop said:
The Crossfire comes with a 215 hp V6 engine. For $35+K, I would have hoped
for more power than a turbo PT Cruiser. It is definitely a "sporty" car
but
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The Crossfire comes with a 215 hp V6 engine. For $35+K, I would have hoped
for more power than a turbo PT Cruiser.

Would you settle for more than an Audi TT? A BMW Z4? A Toyota MR2? A
Mercedes SLK230? A Mazda RX-8 automatic? Within 10 of a Porsche Boxster?
 
Lloyd said:
Would you settle for more than an Audi TT?

Coupe has several engine options, which include 180 hp/auto/FWD, 225
hp/manual/AWD, and 250 hp/?/AWD. Zero-to-60 for these cars range from
6.3 to 7.9 seconds. Roadster has same engine options as Coupe.
Zero-to-60 ranges from 6.6 to 8.1 for the roadster. 250HP comes from
3.2 L engine (same displacement as Crossfire but apparently spec'd at
35 hp more). Cost = between $38 and $40k USD.
A BMW Z4?

Z4 3.0i 0-60 = 5.9 seconds (228 hp)
Z4 2.5i 0-60 = 7.0 seconds (190 hp)

Z4 cost = between $40 and $45k.
A Toyota MR2?

HP = 138
MR2 weighs 1000 lbs less than Crossfire and retails for 1/2 the price.
A Mercedes SLK230?

192 hp, 0-60 = 7.0 seconds.
This car (4-cyl engine) _does_ actually appear to be a worse performer
than the Crossfire. Same weight (about 3100 lbs) but powered by a
4-banger. $40 USD.
A Mazda RX-8 automatic?

Yes, there is quite a difference between the auto and standard isin't
there? Let's look at both, shall we?

Auto/manual hp: 197/238
Auto actually has more torque (164 vs 159) and peak comes at lower rpm
(5000 vs 5500). Curb weight very comparable to Crossfire (3050 lbs).
0-60 time for auto is hard to find. 0-60 time for standard is 5.9
seconds. Most people that buy an RX-8 will probably NOT get the
automatic anyways ...
Within 10 of a Porsche Boxster?

Boxter hp: 225
0-60: 6.4 seconds
cost: $43k USD

Boxter S hp: 258
0-60: 5.7 seconds
cost: $52 USD

Crossfire has 3.2L engine, 215 hp, 3060 lbs, 0-60 is 6.4 seconds (Road
& Track). Cost is about $34k USD.

Conclusion:

Crossfire is less expensive than comparable models (MR2 not really in
the same league). Crossfire does not stand out in performance but it
does have curb appeal and is a head-turner. It does have interior
issues with ergonomics and seating.

Big tires mean tire-slap when driving over expansion joints. Getting
into the car means climb over the relatively high sill, keep head down
to clear low roof, keep knee tucked in before bashing the bolster -
all at the same time. Tall people complain that it's uncomfortable
getting in and out, and that once in there isn't much space (if you're
claustrophobic you won't like this car). Big structural reinforcement
behind the seats limits seat travel even though there's plenty of room
behind it. Seat bottoms are too short and the steering wheel adjusts
for reach, not rake. Interior painted plastic is of questionable
taste. Blind spots are huge - the triangular rear window is almost
useless and the mirrors are way too small for serious driving. This
car is all about the styling, and probably the RX-8 comes closest in
terms of head-turning looks, price and performance.
 
It is extremely small in person. I was surprised the first time I saw one. I
would expect the handling to be excellent, as it's got to be at least as
rigid as the Mercedes.
 
Coupe has several engine options, which include 180 hp/auto/FWD, 225
hp/manual/AWD, and 250 hp/?/AWD.

Yes, but since the Crossfire is 2wd, let's stick to comparing apples with
apples.

Zero-to-60 for these cars range from
6.3 to 7.9 seconds. Roadster has same engine options as Coupe.
Zero-to-60 ranges from 6.6 to 8.1 for the roadster. 250HP comes from
3.2 L engine (same displacement as Crossfire but apparently spec'd at
35 hp more). Cost = between $38 and $40k USD.

So what are you assuming is the Crossfire's 0-60 time?
Z4 3.0i 0-60 = 5.9 seconds (228 hp)
Z4 2.5i 0-60 = 7.0 seconds (190 hp)

Z4 cost = between $40 and $45k.


HP = 138
MR2 weighs 1000 lbs less than Crossfire and retails for 1/2 the price.


192 hp, 0-60 = 7.0 seconds.
This car (4-cyl engine) _does_ actually appear to be a worse performer
than the Crossfire. Same weight (about 3100 lbs) but powered by a
4-banger. $40 USD.


Yes, there is quite a difference between the auto and standard isin't
there? Let's look at both, shall we?

Auto/manual hp: 197/238

I believe you'll find Mazda has lowered both.
Auto actually has more torque (164 vs 159) and peak comes at lower rpm
(5000 vs 5500). Curb weight very comparable to Crossfire (3050 lbs).
0-60 time for auto is hard to find. 0-60 time for standard is 5.9
seconds. Most people that buy an RX-8 will probably NOT get the
automatic anyways ...


Boxter hp: 225
0-60: 6.4 seconds
cost: $43k USD

Boxter S hp: 258
0-60: 5.7 seconds
cost: $52 USD

Crossfire has 3.2L engine, 215 hp, 3060 lbs, 0-60 is 6.4 seconds (Road
& Track). Cost is about $34k USD.

So it beats the standard Z4 and the TT, and ties the Boxster. Its primary
competition.
 
i'll take a vettte (which i hate) a stang or viper anytime over the
crossfire and yes i have driven all four
german made cars are not for me

Gee, you'll take a 50k car or an 80k car over a 32k car. Wouldn't most?
 
i'll take a vettte (which i hate) a stang or viper anytime over the
crossfire and yes i have driven all four
german made cars are not for me
 
Of those choices, the Mustang is really the only affordable choice.
Though, as I mentioned previously, the new Mazda RX8 and Nissan 350Z are
also an option (much faster AND cheaper) if you're looking for something
small and sporty. The Mazda even has a back seat.

Cheers,

C
 
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