Chrysler and how they are introducing the (ug) 300C

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Why on earth has Chrysler forsaken the Detroit Auto Show as the venue
to drive what should be a top-secret new body design through a fake
foam wall as it leaps onto a stage and stops just inches behind Dieter
Zetsche's sorry ass?

Go to www.chrysler.com to see what I mean.

What a let-down the Detroit auto show is going to be. No surprises
from Chrysler. They stole their own thunder and pissed it all over
the floor.

Sing for me Celine. Sing for me ...
 
|
| Why on earth has Chrysler forsaken the Detroit Auto Show as the venue
| to drive what should be a top-secret new body design through a fake
| foam wall as it leaps onto a stage and stops just inches behind Dieter
| Zetsche's sorry ass?
|
| Go to www.chrysler.com to see what I mean.
|
| What a let-down the Detroit auto show is going to be. No surprises
| from Chrysler. They stole their own thunder and pissed it all over
| the floor.
|
| Sing for me Celine. Sing for me ...

The new 300 is NOT following the "sport-luxury" legacy of that badge. If
Chrysler wanted to build a Bentley-looking luxury BOX, they should have
brought back the "Imperial" or "New Yorker" badge to put on it! Those
badges would fit the design better...it is the "luxury" without even a hint
of "sport", which is NOT what the 300 is all about. The 300 should remain a
"sporty" design with "luxury appointments around the edges. Boy, did they
ruin the "300" badge with this new design, or what!?
 
James C. Reeves said:
|
| Why on earth has Chrysler forsaken the Detroit Auto Show as the venue
| to drive what should be a top-secret new body design through a fake
| foam wall as it leaps onto a stage and stops just inches behind Dieter
| Zetsche's sorry ass?
|
| Go to www.chrysler.com to see what I mean.
|
| What a let-down the Detroit auto show is going to be. No surprises
| from Chrysler. They stole their own thunder and pissed it all over
| the floor.
|
| Sing for me Celine. Sing for me ...

The new 300 is NOT following the "sport-luxury" legacy of that badge. If
Chrysler wanted to build a Bentley-looking luxury BOX, they should have
brought back the "Imperial" or "New Yorker" badge to put on it! Those
badges would fit the design better...it is the "luxury" without even a hint
of "sport", which is NOT what the 300 is all about. The 300 should remain a
"sporty" design with "luxury appointments around the edges. Boy, did they
ruin the "300" badge with this new design, or what!?
I don't agree...

It's going to be something special. You may not like how it looks but many
many will. As far as sportiness goes, it's got it all, RWD, 350HP V8, 5 Sp
Automatic. It's right up there with the entire 300 lineage, only better....
 
Sam Man said:
remain
I don't agree...

It's going to be something special. You may not like how it looks but many
many will. As far as sportiness goes, it's got it all, RWD, 350HP V8, 5 Sp
Automatic. It's right up there with the entire 300 lineage, only better....
I like it too. The 300's were all big sedans. I have no clue how the rumor
got started that it was sporty. That's nuts. The only thing I don't like
about it is the C-pillar looks so Mercedes to me. But I still might buy
one.
 
Re: Why on earth has Chrysler forsaken the Detroit Auto Show?

Because if it ain't German, it ain't gonna make it from this point forward.
Period. Why bother with Detroit anymore?

Face it guys, Chrysler is a "captive import" now.

As for the 300, if I'd wanted something like that back in 1997, I'd have
driven to my Mercedes Dealer and bought one. I sold (as a profession),
owned, and drove Chryslers because they were American and I loved the
engineering heritage and history of the company. Not because of any
association with Daimler-Benz.

Cars like the Crossfire, Pacifica, and now the 300 and Magnum Wagon (Just
who's bright idea was it not to give Dodge sedan replacement for the
Intrepid, anyway?) sicken me.

I don't like the "Daimlerized" cars. They aren't attracting positive
attention and the one's in production aren't selling well. Whatever you
guys think is OK with me, but it's hard for me to see how any Mopar Nut can
stand in support of the new regime, their failures, repeat of failures, lack
of understanding of the American market, and almost total disregard for the
great history of the Former Chrysler Corporation. Maybe it's because we
don't have a choice? Gimme the Charger R/T and I'll shut up.

Kevin Wolford
'89 Dodge Dakota 4X4
'69 Plymouth Road Runner
'01 Chrysler PT Cruiser (and the way it's going, the last Mopar)
'02 Chevrolet TrailBlazer EXT (Bought when it was confirmed the Charger R/T
won't be.)
 
Kevin Wolford said:
Re: Why on earth has Chrysler forsaken the Detroit Auto Show?

Because if it ain't German, it ain't gonna make it from this point forward.
Period. Why bother with Detroit anymore?

Face it guys, Chrysler is a "captive import" now.

As for the 300, if I'd wanted something like that back in 1997, I'd have
driven to my Mercedes Dealer and bought one. I sold (as a profession),
owned, and drove Chryslers because they were American and I loved the
engineering heritage and history of the company. Not because of any
association with Daimler-Benz.

I've got news for you buddy: Several hundered of us have spent the last
three years of our lives creating the LX sedans. This was done right here
in the good ole USA. Other than some components that we have borrowed from
Daimler it's all american.....
Cars like the Crossfire, Pacifica, and now the 300 and Magnum Wagon (Just
who's bright idea was it not to give Dodge sedan replacement for the
Intrepid, anyway?) sicken me.

Are you sure?
I don't like the "Daimlerized" cars. They aren't attracting positive
attention and the one's in production aren't selling well. Whatever you
guys think is OK with me, but it's hard for me to see how any Mopar Nut can
stand in support of the new regime, their failures, repeat of failures, lack
of understanding of the American market, and almost total disregard for the
great history of the Former Chrysler Corporation. Maybe it's because we
don't have a choice? Gimme the Charger R/T and I'll shut up.

You don't deserve a Charger R/T.....
 
That's OK. Hopefully Daimler will find many new buyers to replace me.

As far as a Charger R/T, you get your wish. No one will ever get one.

I used to frequent this forum. I just came back to see what was going on.
I don't want to start a fight and the sales numbers will prove who's right
in the long term.

I feel most sorry for the dealers and employees who sacrificed many times
over in the past to put Chrysler in the leadership position they used to
have. I have no beef with you. The cars may be for some but they're not
for me. For your sake, I hope they sell.

After defending and supporting Chrysler Corp. to keep the good things coming
(from the late 1970's on) this has been more than I can take. I'm sorry.
The 300 looks more like a Mercedes than a Mopar. And when the Super8
flopped at the auto shows, another direction besides the very similar Magnum
should have been developed. Reports in Automotive News Dodge Dealers have
been crying out loud for a sedan, but at last report the Magnum was only to
be introduced as a wagon. (Unless Stuttgart bucked under pressure.) And
I'm still trying to figure out how the Dodge Sprinter is supposed to
increase van Market Share?

I am sure you did the best you could with your current bosses and I hope my
mind is changed when I see one on the street. But one thing can not be
denied. Chrysler Corporation no longer exists. Daimler runs the show. I
still have a tough time adjusting to that.
 
Also, please tell me the Kahuna is not the next generation Minivan. Please?

I'm leaving now. Good luck to you.
 
Many of your American cars have been made in Mexico and Canada for
some time.
 
Art Begun said:
Many of your American cars have been made in Mexico and Canada for
some time.


But R&D was done in the USA. People get all hung up on final place of
assembly. And I'm in Canada and buy American assembled cars. Simply because
otherwise my choices would be limited to a van (Ford, or dodge), Pacifica, a
crownvic, intrepid, 300,etc, impala, buicks, and half-tons. However the
North American auto industry is very integrated and it's better to keep it
in the continent than overseas.
 
Kevin Wolford said:
Re: Why on earth has Chrysler forsaken the Detroit Auto Show?

Because if it ain't German, it ain't gonna make it from this point forward.
Period. Why bother with Detroit anymore?

Face it guys, Chrysler is a "captive import" now.

As for the 300, if I'd wanted something like that back in 1997, I'd have
driven to my Mercedes Dealer and bought one. I sold (as a profession),
owned, and drove Chryslers because they were American and I loved the
engineering heritage and history of the company. Not because of any
association with Daimler-Benz.

Cars like the Crossfire, Pacifica, and now the 300 and Magnum Wagon (Just
who's bright idea was it not to give Dodge sedan replacement for the
Intrepid, anyway?) sicken me.

I don't like the "Daimlerized" cars. They aren't attracting positive
attention and the one's in production aren't selling well.

I have to agree with you. I don't like the "German engineered American
designed" concept of new cars in this "merger" (AKA takeover).

The cars don't look Chrysler, and they aren't priced Chrysler. And chances
are the upcoming Neon replacement will be a Mitsubishi with Benz pricing.
Soon I'll have to write Chrysler off as being Domestic.
 
I have to agree with you. I don't like the "German engineered American
designed" concept of new cars in this "merger" (AKA takeover).

The cars don't look Chrysler, and they aren't priced Chrysler. And chances
are the upcoming Neon replacement will be a Mitsubishi with Benz pricing.
Soon I'll have to write Chrysler off as being Domestic.
1. The Intrepid/Concorde/Vision looked like nothing from Chrysler in 93 when
they were first introduced either.
2. Nobody knows what the pricing on the LX will be.
 
Bill 2 wrote:

I have to agree with you. I don't like the "German engineered American
designed" concept of new cars in this "merger" (AKA takeover).

The cars don't look Chrysler, and they aren't priced Chrysler. And chances
are the upcoming Neon replacement will be a Mitsubishi with Benz pricing.
Soon I'll have to write Chrysler off as being Domestic.

Here's to hoping and praying that the Jeep/Truck division manages to
maintain the autonomy they've kept so far. More and more it looks like
any post-2000 Mopar I ever own is going to be a truck or SUV.
 
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