Chinese-made cars will not be cheaper than domestics

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by George Orwell, May 31, 2009.

  1. Think Japanese cars. Toyota Coronas sold for $1800 when intoduced. Once
    we got hooked, they jacked up the prices to American levels. The Chinese
    will do the same after they wipe out Ford.

    Lenin once said, "The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will
    hang them".
    So true, if GM imports Chinese Chevys.

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    Canuck57 Guest

    It is only our politicians that keep us from buying a Tata Nano for $2600.

    Detrot doesn't buy my products, why should I buy theirs? It is going to be
    a question many are going to ask after GM & Chrysler are bilking the
    taxpayers including myself.

    It is why I will not by a auto again that has a GM, Chrysler, GMAC, UAW or
    CAW part in it.

    So Chinese and India vehicles have appeal. Bring them on.... and Ford does
    make non-UAW stuff imported....

    Pick my pocket, your business can go to hell.
    Canuck57, May 31, 2009
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    Nate Nagel Guest

    Actually, it's NHTSA.

    Nate Nagel, May 31, 2009
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    Canuck57 Guest

    And does NHTSA run the administration, congress and the senate?
    Canuck57, May 31, 2009
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    labatyd Guest

    Because our gov'ts will attempt to protect domestic and jack up the cost of
    labatyd, May 31, 2009
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    Picasso Guest

    Uhm... they aren't cheaper now

    Doubtful they will wipe out ford
    Picasso, May 31, 2009
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    Björn Guest

    They do not jack up they jack off
    Björn, May 31, 2009
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    RealCanadian Guest

    try going down the highway in a Nan for 2600 ...see yourself being blown off
    the road ..or worse hit a curb and get killed.....fucking junk pushers
    RealCanadian, May 31, 2009
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    RealCanadian Guest

    lets wipe out the auto industry boys....what will people do then???? serve
    all the rich like we are suppose to for 2 an hour with aka47
    pointed at the back of our heads....the rich are going to hang soon
    RealCanadian, May 31, 2009
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    Steve Stone Guest

    but the originals rusted away in a short time too.. big time
    Steve Stone, May 31, 2009
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    Canuck57 Guest

    Funny and agreed. If I am on the highway, I take the F150 Lariat. Nice
    ride. But agree, small cars are a risk in many cases. Imagine a prarie
    winter, -30C, wind gusts to 30kmh or more, blowing snow....

    What would you rather be in? Nano, SmartCar, Volt or F150? Know the F150
    is a V8, auto, 4x4 with temp control, heated seats and mirrors....

    But I would bet if Tata put 200,000 Nano's on the Canadian market for say
    $4000, they would be sold in 2 months or less. At that price, I wouldn't
    even haggle. Buy one as a city only vehicle. F150 for the highway and
    winter, and Nano for fair weather travel to city work.

    But if some GM jack ass thinks I am going to buy a fair weather Volt, or
    Euro SmartCar for $30,000 and up, they are stark raving nuts. Every October
    though March the little crap boxes hibernate around here.
    Canuck57, May 31, 2009
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    Canuck57 Guest

    They do not jack up they jack off
    Canuck57, May 31, 2009
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    Canuck57 Guest

    Buy more affordable imports. Hey, you asked? Our economy didn't end when
    electronics, textiles, clothing etc. went offshore. It is just time that
    auto did the same so we can aford to buy them. With taxes up, expenses up,
    wages down, job insecurity and national credit sub-zero, people are not
    going to pay CAW/UAW prices any more.

    And people like me, will not patronize the taxpayer pocket pickers. They
    can go away. And the GM wankers can go find jobs like the 99% of the others
    who got laid off without a bailout.
    Canuck57, May 31, 2009
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    clare Guest

    It's simple economics.
    If the Chinese build all our cars they will want higher pay, to bring
    their standard of living up to ours. Add the transportation and the
    handling charges on top, and give GM (or whoever imports them) their
    profit, and within a few years it will be cheaper to build CHINESE
    vehicles in North America than in China, just like it is now cheaper
    to build Toyota and Honda cars for North American consumption in North
    America than to build them in Japan.

    In that respect the market IS self regulating.
    clare, Jun 1, 2009
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    clare Guest

    This is where I dissagree with you. Our economy DID die when
    electronics, textiles, clothing etc went offshore. Because of the
    screwed up way our financial system works, and the stock market, it
    just took a little while for the corpses to drop.
    Now that the corpses have fallen over we finally REALIZE that our
    economy is sick/dying/dead.
    And just what are you/ the rest of North Americans going to do to earn
    the money to buy the Tatra Nano or whatever other ultra-cheap imported
    products you say we should be able to buy? Sell hamburgers at
    Harveys/White Castle/etc? Be greeters at Walmart? Sell coffee at

    Who's going to have money to buy starbucks coffee if everyone is
    working at minimum wage and the country has no gross national
    When the GM workers all hit the job market, competition for those jobs
    at Starbucks and Walmart is going to get AWFUL stiff.
    clare, Jun 1, 2009
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    Nate Nagel Guest

    In a true free market though, you would have the option of buying cheap
    junk if you so desired...

    you could ask the question, which is safer and more reliable, a new Nano
    or a typical $2600 used car. Unless you're real savvy and have a full
    set of tools the answer might actually be the Nano.

    Nate Nagel, Jun 1, 2009
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    Nate Nagel Guest

    None of the above. My ideal ride for those conditions would be some
    sort of Audi or Subaru. Of vehicles that I own, probably my Porsche
    944, so long as the snow isn't too deep. yes I have snow tires for it
    and it's an animal in snow. Yes I also have an F-150 and I don't
    understand why people feel safer in such an oversized, ill-handling
    machine. It's good for hauling stuff, but when I don't need to haul
    anything I much prefer being in a proper car.

    Too bad AMC bit it all those years ago, and it's especially a shame that
    they didn't develop the Eagle concept better. If they'd put out a
    performance version they "coulda been a contender" because remember that
    was just about the same time that Audi was flat out rocking the rally
    world with the Ur-Quattro. (speaking of which, the girlie was wearing a
    Pike's Peak T-shirt yesterday. It's odd enough to see her wearing
    something automotive related that I noticed it... I guess she thinks
    Michele Mouton was cool or something. Well, she was...) Could you see
    a little hatchback Eagle with a tweaked up motor and 5-speed going at it
    against the Quattros? What could have been... And wouldn't it have
    been nice to have an AWD passenger car option that wasn't either finicky
    and expen$ive like those old Audis all were or else on the small side
    like the old Subarus? Of course now the Scoobys are a decent size so
    that's academic.

    Nate Nagel, Jun 1, 2009
  18. Obamabush is foxing you like the last Bush did Colin Powell style.

    You getting lied to and foxed for money.

    Has nothing to do with the Constitution ... in fact they hate the

    Jesus hates it as well ... as Jesus hates Condoms, and abortion and
    abortion doctors and stem cells and homosexuals and medical marijuana
    for a start.

    YOU HAVE to LOVE TO HATE .. .just like Jesus loves to hate things.

    It is what Jesus would do ... Chinese Crap Cars for a buck.

    Americans are such stupid ditto head fox nuts.

    5 Trillion in Debt in the FIRST 100 DAYS in office ... and the sick fox
    for a President is not done yet.

    He got a war to win ... you know.

    A war on terror ...

    Just like that Idiot before him.

    sumbuddie on da watchtower wear blind sea

    Alan Mac Farlane, Jun 2, 2009
  19. Despite your prejudices the Smart is not "a crap box", even if the AMG
    version may cost a lot.


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    Dori A Schmetterling, Jun 2, 2009
  20. Actually, not necesarily for the time being. I gather (not from here) that
    the Nano is still poor for safety, though that may change in future (with
    its price going up).

    Furthermore, my 1993 Merc 190E has a market value of somewhere between zero
    and scrap, but I bet it's still a safer bet than a Tata Nano.

    It is also interesting to note that the export version of the Nano will have
    more features.


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    Dori A Schmetterling, Jun 2, 2009
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