Chinese Cars are Coming! Chinese Cars are Coming!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Nomen Nescio, Jan 2, 2005.

  1. Nomen Nescio

    Nomen Nescio Guest

    They'll kill us dead. GM, Ford, D-C, all dead as a door nail. This is a
    clear and direct threat to this nation. If the President and Congress do
    not act to stop this in its tracks, constellation impeachment is in order.
    Yes, you will get cheap cars. For five years you will get cheap cars.
    Then our entire industrial base will be dead as a door nail and our dollar
    will collapse. The depression that follows will make the Great Depression
    look like Spring Time in Bavaria. It will be all over for us. We are dead
    men walking and you have been warned.

    Don't believe it? Look what happened to our commercial electronic industry
    after Asia drove in its claws. Multiply this by a million-fold and you can
    visualize what will become of our automotive industry.
     
    Nomen Nescio, Jan 2, 2005
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    Ken Pisichko Guest

    Don't EVER forget what happened to the US fountain pen and pencil industry. Dead
    too!!
     
    Ken Pisichko, Jan 3, 2005
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  3. If Bricklin is involved, it'll just be another scam to line his pockets -
    probably with greedy would-be dealer cash.

    Just ask the Canadian and New Brunswick (state) governments!

    Jeff


    They'll kill us dead. GM, Ford, D-C, all dead as a door nail. This is a
    clear and direct threat to this nation. If the President and Congress do
    not act to stop this in its tracks, constellation impeachment is in order.
    Yes, you will get cheap cars. For five years you will get cheap cars.
    Then our entire industrial base will be dead as a door nail and our dollar
    will collapse. The depression that follows will make the Great Depression
    look like Spring Time in Bavaria. It will be all over for us. We are dead
    men walking and you have been warned.

    Don't believe it? Look what happened to our commercial electronic industry
    after Asia drove in its claws. Multiply this by a million-fold and you can
    visualize what will become of our automotive industry.
     
    Jeff Falkiner, Jan 3, 2005
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  4. Nomen Nescio

    Arthur Guest

    Do you people believe the Chinese cars will be SO good, and SO cheap, they
    will displace the cars we are buying??? Personally, I don't think so.
    People in North America and Europe still enjoy a good measure of qualityand
    reliability. If the Chinese cars are manufactured cheaply in the same
    manner as other goods from the Orient, then I think consumers will stay away
    from them in droves. Nomen.....you are an alarmist. Shame on you.

    Arthur
     
    Arthur, Jan 3, 2005
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    p Guest

    The " chery QQ EZ-Drive " will come to the market ( US ) at 62,800
    yuan ...... thats about $ 7600 US .... and not a bad looking little
    car.
     
    p, Jan 3, 2005
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    HarryS Guest

    The same was said about Japan after WWII history will repeat itself.

    HarryS
     
    HarryS, Jan 3, 2005
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  7. If the Chinese cars are manufactured cheaply in the same
    Don't think so !! Consumers are flocking to buy all types of Chinese
    and other Oriental produced goods thanks to our greedy big corporations
    having the products manufactured offshore. It's difficult to find a
    camera or any piece of electronic equipment that's not made in the
    Orient. It's strange that communist China has became a major producer
    of our goods but we had better not take a vacation in Cuba with that
    Chinese camera! Sad that in one generation we have went from being a
    nation of producers to a nation of consumers drowning in debt.
    What's next? Borrowing from China?
     
    solomondarcus, Jan 4, 2005
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    Melvin Myers Guest

    I hate to tell you this but we are already borrowing from China. Who do you
    think is underwriting much of our massive deficit?
     
    Melvin Myers, Jan 4, 2005
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  9. That's OK we will just declare bankruptcy in about 10 years and all those
    Chinese
    investors will get screwed Mah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaa!! ;-) It's the
    American Way!! ;-)

    Actually though I think it might be a net benefit to the economy - think of
    all
    those auto mechanic positions that are going to be created for people that
    will
    be needed to fix those cars. Maybe we can put all our out of work software
    developers through retraining programs to make them into mechanics? ;-)

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jan 4, 2005
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    Joe Guest

    Sort of like that army of TV/VCR repairmen that fixes our Chinese
    electronics? Hmmmm?

    I think we'd be pretty foolish to not be able to predict how this is going
    to play out. Cars are basically the last thing that is made in Japan.
    Everything that used to come from Japan, except cars, now comes from China
    with Japanese technology. Japanese labor is more expensive than American
    labor, so they outsource some of their production facilities here where it
    would be cheaper. Well, Chinese labor is reallly cheap, and the quality is
    still good. If the Chinese goverment is logical enough to see this coming,
    you should be too.

    If you want to support auto mechanics, buy a Fiat made by the Italian
    government, not the Chinese.
     
    Joe, Jan 4, 2005
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  11. Customers seeking the lowest possible price, a not unlaudable aim. In many
    cases you still have the choice.

    Let's take a simple example of a suit I just bought from a well-known
    department store in London. My choice was down to two very reputable
    'premium' British brands. Even after the sale reduction one was still over
    GBP 100 dearer than the other. There was a difference of over GBP 200 in
    the pre-reduction price.

    I asked the salesman in the dearer section to explain the differences, and
    it boiled down to location of manufacture and source of fabric. But was
    there such a quality difference? I doubt it.

    (If you're wondering, I bought the dearer garment because it was a slightly
    better fit and I fancied that label on this occasion.)

    And, what's more, a friend of mine was the buyer for a famous brand of
    casual wear based in New York and now he is production manager for another
    big brand of casual wear, also in NYC. Both jobs entail visiting the
    supplyers' factories. And why are they not in the USA, Britain, Italy etc
    (all places where workmanship is very good)? Because you, the American
    buying public, won't pay for it.

    Of course, same applies everywhere. The UK textile industry has shrunk for
    the same reasons.

    DAS
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    Dori A Schmetterling, Jan 4, 2005
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  12. Already here, sunshine.

    DAS
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, Jan 4, 2005
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  13. Dori A Schmetterling, Jan 4, 2005
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  14. There's a reason for that and it's tied up in human nature.

    If given a choice people will prefer to pay $100 a month for 10 years for a
    particular product, than to pay $7,000 now, even when that monthly payment
    is costing them an extra $5000. This is true EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE
    the $7000!!!!

    Buying good quality is the same type of deal. The best quality stuff always
    costs more - but it lasts longer, and doesen't break down, so in the long
    run you save money. Cheap crap generally doesen't cost much up front,
    but it's more than made up for that over the same time period.

    Thank God that there's enough people that understand this so that the
    manufacturers of the best quality stuff don't go completely out of business.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jan 9, 2005
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    frenchy Guest

    <<There's a reason for that and it's tied up in human nature.
    If given a choice people will prefer to pay $100 a month for 10 years
    for a
    particular product, than to pay $7,000 now, even when that monthly
    payment
    is costing them an extra $5000. This is true EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE
    the $7000!!!!>>

    Well, the nature of STUPID humans maybe...not me! Hard enuf for me to
    want to spend the 7000 I got, let alone the 7000 I AIN'T got.

    Frenchy
     
    frenchy, Jan 9, 2005
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    Kokomo Kid Guest

    In all likelihood, Chinese cars will hit the market as "fringe players"
    which are mediocre in design and quality like the first Japanese and Korean
    cars, and over time, will mature to be competitive in many market segments.
    Consider the first Japanese cars sold in North America. They were low-end
    products which rusted badly and had power trains that were ok, but nothing
    more. Now, some of the best cars in the world are Japanese. Korean cars
    aren't that far along yet, but after only about 15 years in the US market,
    they are now serious players in the mid-size car and small SUV markets.
    Expect nothing different from Chinese cars.
     
    Kokomo Kid, Jan 29, 2005
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  17. Nomen Nescio

    Kokomo Kid Guest

    The only Fiats you can buy in the US are the very fast, and expensive ones
    from the Ferarri division. By the way, Fiat is now partly owned by GM.
     
    Kokomo Kid, Jan 29, 2005
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