Changing Coolant in a 99 Concorde

Discussion in 'Concorde' started by John, Feb 29, 2004.

  1. John

    John Guest

    My first surprise with this car was the location of the battery...my
    second surprise is the inaccessability of the radiator. Any
    suggestions on how to drain and refill with new coolant?

    Also there is a nipple at the front center of the engine which
    occasionally weeps coolant. What is the purpose of the nipple? I
    appreciate any help.
     
    John, Feb 29, 2004
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  2. John

    Bill Putney Guest

    I assume you have the 2.7L engine. Careful with that nipple - it breaks
    easily (the seat is an insert molded into the plastic body, and it can
    twist out), and the replacement of the part is expensive and labor
    intensive. Only loosen and tighten it when necessary, and tighten only
    enough to shut it off.

    Mine has been weeping since I bought it three years ago, but is still OK
    otherwise. The amount of fluid lost is insignificant - I've never had
    to add any coolant since I've owned it - that's how small the leak is.
    Normally I'm in favor of fixing problems like that, but in this case, no
    - not until absolutely necessary - hopefully never. A dealer parts guy
    told me that he has seen people purchase the new part, and the insert
    for the nipple twist out of the plastic the first time they open it. He
    also told me that if that happens, they don't provide you with a free
    replacement - you have to buy another one. Some deal, eh?

    To answer your question, that nipple is to inject fluids for flushing
    and refilling, and for bleeding air out of the cooling system.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Mar 1, 2004
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  3. John

    Bill Putney Guest

    One other thing, John -

    On my '99 Concorde, I recently put a hose clamp moderately tightly
    around the plastic that the nipple and its seat are molded into.

    The purpose was two-fold:
    (1) To reduce the seapage even further. And the visible seapage
    (residue from the dried coolant) is in fact less with the clamp on. BTW
    - yours is probably like mine in that the seapage is greater in colder
    weather (almost none in summer) due to the difference in thermal
    coefficient of expansion of the metal of the nipple and its seat and the
    plastic housing that they sit in.
    (2) To hopefully greatly reduce the chances of the insert twisting out
    when I change the coolant, hoses, and thermostat this Spring.

    Oh - also - just so you are aware - even though that whole piece looks
    like a thermostat housing, it's not. The thermostat is under a separate
    cover on the driver's side of the engine (on the side of the block -
    accessible from underneath).

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Mar 1, 2004
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  4. John

    Bill Putney Guest

    Also - you asked about draining the radiator. There is a petcock on the
    lower right side of the radiator - made for opening by hand - no
    wrenches. Pretty cramped quarters in front of the engine - probably
    need to access that from underneath.

    To drain the system, you open that and the coolant pressure bottle cap,
    and the dreaded nipple that we talked about earlier.

    There are also, according to the FSM, two block drain plugs - one on
    each side underneath each exhaust manifold.

    I haven't done this myself, but, as I said earlier, I plan to soon. I
    don't know if those block plugs are really accessible or not. On
    previous cars I've owned, the manuals always talked about block plugs,
    and they did exist, but often they are totally inaccessible without
    taking things like the exhaust manifold off, which isn't worth it - easy
    for people to write into manuals, not always easy or possible to do.
    Hopefull we can access ours with little trouble (not holding my breath
    for that).

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Mar 1, 2004
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  5. John

    John Guest

    Bill---Great info, and I really appreciate it. Like yours, the weeping
    is so insignificant that I won't worry about it...too much anyway!
    This car ahs been so reliable that I haven't even bothered buying a
    Haynes. I wonder if you would be so kind as to post a followup after
    you do the drain and refill this spring...just to let us know of any
    gremlins out there.

    I can't believe that after 45 years of always doing my own work I'm
    actually considering letting the dealer do this job!

    Regards, John
     
    John, Mar 1, 2004
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  6. Buying a Haynes (or Chilton) manual and using it as anything other than
    amusement or toilet paper is a great way to make a car *less* reliable.
    They are full of wrong information. The factory manual's the only way to
    go.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Mar 1, 2004
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