can anyone who knows chrysler SHUDDERING problems help?

I have an 89 lebaron conv. with the 2.5L turbo engine and 4-speed auto.
transmission. I have nearly gone crazy trying to figure out WHY this car
shudders so violently upon acceleration. So far BOTH motor mounts, THE
SINGLE transmission mount, transmission fluid (changed once), BOTH front
wheel bearings, and steering rack (assembly or whatever its called) have
all either been replaced or checked as OK. I would VERY VERY GREATLY
appreciate any help to solve this problem. THANK YOU.

 

No, you don't. Either you have a 3.0L V6 with 4-speed auto transmission,
or you have a 2.5L turbo with 3-speed auto transmission.

Cannot figure out what would cause someone to suspect the steering rack or
wheel bearings for this problem, which is probably being caused either by
one or more faulty inner CV joints or an internal transmission fault.

 

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Assuming you isolated the front tires as not being the problem I would
check the right inner cv joint for wear, The tripod and housing is more then
likely worn out, This will cause a severe vibration on acceleration.

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech

 

Depending on what he mean's by "shuddering", my '87 (2.2 turbo) has
had episodes of horrible misfire on acceleration cause by a neglected
PCV valve and by failed spark plug wires.

 

I have an 89 lebaron conv. with the 2.5L turbo engine and 4-speed auto.

No, you don't. Either you have a 3.0L V6 with 4-speed auto transmission,
or you have a 2.5L turbo with 3-speed auto transmission.

Cannot figure out what would cause someone to suspect the steering rack
or
wheel bearings for this problem, which is probably being caused either by
one or more faulty inner CV joints or an internal transmission fault.

It's always interesting when someone else knows about my own things better
than I do, and you're absolutely right about the car having a 3-speed
transmission. Don't know what I was thinking (or maybe I wasn't). As far
as the wheel bearings and steering rack are concerned, I acquired this
tid-bit of info. from the chryslerlebaronclub. And to tell you the truth,
after many hours of trying to trace the problem with no luck it's starting
to look like I'll just have to accept the fact that chrysler didn't have
their sh__ together back in 89 and deal with it until the tranny becomes
part of the road.

 

my car had a shudder. software upgrade to the TCM solved it.
the electronically controlled clutch was upshifting too slowly
caused the torque convertor to start to self-destruct and i
thought something was wrong with the tires or suspension.
probably not your problem, but just throwing this out
since you said "any help"

also make sure correct fluid, ATF+3, yes?

 

Horseshit. Your '89 LeBaron should not shudder. If it does, it's because
something's wrong. Systematic and proper diagnosis -- and not simple
shotgunning of new parts -- will track down and resolve the problem.

DS

 

Not applicable to the OP's car, which has the 3-speed hydromechanical
automatic transmission (no TCM), not the 4-speed electronic.

 

That's exactly what I was thinking. How about some plug wires?

 

NO!

http://dodgeram.info/tsb/2004/21-004-04.htm

--
HarryS My 2¢
| my car had a shudder. software upgrade to the TCM solved it.
| the electronically controlled clutch was upshifting too slowly
| caused the torque convertor to start to self-destruct and i
| thought something was wrong with the tires or suspension.
| probably not your problem, but just throwing this out
| since you said "any help"
|
| also make sure correct fluid, ATF+3, yes?
|
|
| | > I have an 89 lebaron conv. with the 2.5L turbo engine and 4-speed auto.
| > transmission. I have nearly gone crazy trying to figure out WHY this
car
| > shudders so violently upon acceleration. So far BOTH motor mounts, THE
| > SINGLE transmission mount, transmission fluid (changed once), BOTH front
| > wheel bearings, and steering rack (assembly or whatever its called) have
| > all either been replaced or checked as OK. I would VERY VERY GREATLY
| > appreciate any help to solve this problem. THANK YOU.
| >
|

 

well, if he really had the 4-speed electronic transmission, maybe someone
just kind of dropped it in there if it fits... that's a good TSB you posted

 

That TSB says not to use ATF+4 in the '89 LeBaron. So what is your point?

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
adddress with the letter 'x')

 

Oops - disregard my previous. Poorly writeen TSB.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
adddress with the letter 'x')

 

<...I'll just have to accept the fact that chrysler didn't have

I had an 89 Plymouth Acclaim 2.5 with 3-spd that was solid as a rock. I also
had a 92 Shadow 5-speed that is still running great with almost 300,000 km
(sold it to a friend 5 years ago). In many ways the period late 80s to early
90s were some of Chrysler's best years, before the Stratus/Breeze, '96
generation vans and Neon came along to drag things down.

 

It does not fit. There's no version of the 4-speed electronic that will
mate to a 2.2 or 2.5 litre Chrysler 4-cylinder engine.

 

Does this shuddering appear to be sideways in motion and only during
moderate acceleration or did it start out that way and progressively got
worse? In that case suspect inner cv joints. This was my problem in a 93
Voyager and it took some time before i realised this. Including changing
engine mounts. I am by no means an expert.

Torgeir

 

Actually in 1989 their was no V6 or 4 speed auto available. The turbo
came with either a 5 speed manual or 3 speed automatic.

 

It shudders the most when the tranny shifts from 1st to 2nd gear, although
it will shudder in the INITIAL 10 feet or so from a dead stop if I put my
foot down hard enough. It's pretty frustrating. Walking can be even
worse.

 

Yeah, I used MOBILE ATF+3. Thirteen quarts to be exact because as of now I
have changed the fluid three times just to make sure there wasn't any
dexron left sneaking up in there somethere. The manuals fluid specs said
it held four quarts. Read the manual, flushed and filled tranny three
times. Fluid looks like a bright red cherry lolly-pop and yet,
shhhuuuuddddeerrrrr.

 

That's because the shudder IS NOT IN YOUR TRANSMISSION.

How many people have to tell you this, and how much money do you have to
waste, before this gets through your skull?

Willfully-ignorant people like you are too stupid to deserve cars that
work correctly.