Bob Nardelli new Chrysler boss

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by George Orwell, Aug 7, 2007.

  1. Chrysler hires Nardelli as boss
    Can we trust anybody whose name ends in a vowel? Aside from that, Nardelli
    comes from a non-automotive background. He knows how to peddle, but, so
    what? You might as well put my wife in charge of Chrysler being she knows
    how to cook and clean. Seems I remember Walter Chrysler was a mechanic,
    wasn't he? Am I to believe there is no one in this company that knows cars
    inside and out and can't better run Chrysler than a guy who best knows how
    to push lumber out the door?
     
    George Orwell, Aug 7, 2007
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    Joe Guest

    I was a little surprised. You need to remember that Home Depot just paid
    him $210 million to LEAVE. Who'd hire somebody like that? How do you
    motivate a man who just got paid $210 million to quit his old job?
     
    Joe, Aug 8, 2007
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    Dori A Schmetterling, Aug 9, 2007
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  4. Um, it's not a question of motivating him with compensation.

    You have to understand what Cerberus is up to. They bought Chrysler with
    the idea that they will get it profitable then do an IPO and make a killing
    on all the investors that buy the stock.

    The problem though is the stock market has got a lot more fragile than
    it was 6 months ago. Cerberus is afraid that if they don't get Chrysler
    profitable soon then even if they eventually do get it profitable, they
    would lose money on making it go public because they are thinking the
    stock market is going to go down further.

    So, how do they make it profitable quick? Simple. They squeeze all
    the suppliers, they threaten the dealers with losing their franchises if
    they
    don't get sales up, they cut corners on manufacturing, they cut labor
    by laying off people. They don't really care if what they do deals mortal
    blows to the company. To do all this they have to hire someone who is
    just nasty as all get out, someone who LIKES being the number one
    asshole. They want the labor unions facing a CEO who the union thinks
    might actually go out and do something insanely stupid, like close an entire
    plant down if a few troublemakers in it manage to vote down a contract.
    That's Nardelli in a nutshell.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Aug 11, 2007
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    Joe Guest

    Well, maybe so, but if he can save them 300 million dollars, and they have
    to pay him 500 million dollars, they're going to be way in the hole. If he
    can save them $500 million, then they basically haven't done anything.

    Realistically, there are lots of talented people who would love to run
    Chrysler for 2 or 3 million bucks, and would do it well. Carlos Goshn is
    CEO of two car companies now and he makes about $3 million.
     
    Joe, Aug 14, 2007
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  6. Look, I'd be willing to run Chrysler for a month. I wouldn't be able to
    do *much* damage in that short time, then they can fire me and pay me
    the same for that month as Nardelli got for each month he was at HD.

    Perce
     
    Percival P. Cassidy, Aug 14, 2007
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    Joe Guest

    I've always thought that. Any institution would find it hard to keep me on
    the job for $10 million a month. After a month I'd be so gone they'd never
    find me. It just goes to show that American CEO's are all insane, or else I
    am.
     
    Joe, Aug 15, 2007
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    who Guest

    Why are they insane, when they reap such unjustified rewards.
    I'd say they are very smart and are taking the company boards to the
    cleaners.
     
    who, Aug 15, 2007
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    Doug Guest

    No, they are taking the company stockholders to the cleaners...
    I'm increasingly surprised that there are not more stockholder revolts
    at annual meetings.

    I suppose the only reason why there are not more stockholder revolts
    is that the majority of shares in many companies are owned by mutual
    funds or pension trusts.

    Doug
     
    Doug, Aug 15, 2007
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    who Guest

    Correct, but after the board approves of the stealing.
    True and many individual shareholders wouldn't find it an effective use
    of their time and money to go to the shareholder meetings launching a
    protest that would be ignored anyway.
     
    who, Aug 15, 2007
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  11. Unfortunately, very few of the stockholders these days care who the
    hell is running the company and WTF they are doing, as long as the
    stock price keeps going up. And equally unfortunately, stock prices
    on many companies these days have very little relation to the actual
    health of the company.

    Since Nardelli is known as a ball-breaker they probably think the
    market will assume he will gut the company to make the profits look
    high, and the stock price will rise in anticipation.

    Then a couple years from now when the current holders have all
    sold their stock holdings and made a buck, the stockholders then
    will figure out the company was gutted and the stock price will
    plummet. That's the time for shareholder protests and the like.
    Of course it will be too late then.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Aug 16, 2007
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    Lloyd Guest

     
    Lloyd, Aug 16, 2007
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    Joe Guest

    Well, if you say so, I must be the insane one. I can tell you if I had 100
    million dollars, you wouldn't catch me going to work every day trying to get
    a 2nd 100 million. They have to set an alarm clock just like I do.
     
    Joe, Aug 17, 2007
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    Ted Mittelstaedt, Aug 17, 2007
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  15. The problem is that in order to get the job that pays 100 million you have
    to be the type that would NEVER be satisfied just sitting back and living
    off the money. It's one of those cruel jokes the Universe plays on us poor
    humans. The poor people like us aren't content unless we had the 100
    million and
    the rich people who have the 100 million aren't content unless they have 200
    million.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Aug 17, 2007
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    I've been wandering around looking at Cerberus, and while I can find a
    lot of companies they've bought, I can't find any they've sold. While
    they seem to operate by raising profits through cost-cutting and
    selling unprofitable assets, they seem to be more long-term than just
    flipping companies (if you've found a source that points to Cerberus
    as flipping companies, rather than a generic statement that it's how
    private investment firms operate, I'd be happy to hear it. Well, not
    happy, since I'd like Chrysler to succeed, but you know what I mean).
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Aug 17, 2007
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    Joe Guest

    ..

    That's no explanation. Wouldn't pension trusts and mutual fund companies be
    well organized, and able to control a comany effectively?

    I can tell you that at my company, our big investors can easily get what
    they want when they stand their ground. If the board wants to do something
    stupid, the board gets a talking to from these people, and the board has to
    give in. I've seen them do it. Yet these "accountability sessions" don't
    seem to extend to the issue of executive giveaways.
     
    Joe, Aug 17, 2007
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    Joe Guest

    It'll be fun to watch what they do. Product-wise, I am concerned. They
    won't be taking Mercedes old platforms, and I don't suppose there's much
    chance of Nardelli being a product man. Maybe they'll fool me.
     
    Joe, Aug 17, 2007
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    Lloyd Guest

    Lloyd, Aug 18, 2007
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    Interesting article, particularly on Steinberg's style. But it
    doesn't seem to address my question, which is to what extent Cerberus
    had chopped up companies and sold the remains (so far, I haven't seen
    any reports that they have behaved that way, which is really unusual
    given their love of buying companies on the verge of failure).
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Aug 19, 2007
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