Blower Resistor 1998 Intrepid 2.7

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Keith Phillips, Nov 9, 2005.

  1. For the third time this year the Blower Resistor has failed, leaving me with
    Off and Full.
    The dealer replaces them as they have a 1 year warranty. The problem seems
    to be the location, the coils corrode.
    Has anyone any suggestions how to prevent this corrosion occurring. Its not
    the price its the contortions one has to assume tochange it!
    Keith
     
    Keith Phillips, Nov 9, 2005
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  2. Keith Phillips

    CaravanGuy Guest

    Corrosion?? Where do you live? The blower resistor is concealed in the
    firewall. It's not exposed to the elements. I sense it's possibly
    receiving too much voltage. Very Interesting, indeed.
     
    CaravanGuy, Nov 10, 2005
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  3. Keith Phillips

    Bill Putney Guest

    When the resistor pack blows repeatedly, the problem is almost always
    the blower motor needing to be replaced. Replace the blower motor, and
    the resistor pack will quit failing.

    Bill Putney
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    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Nov 10, 2005
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    santino1 Guest

    hi keith your problem is not corrosion but the quality of the previous
    resistors installed.mopar has released a revised part number blower
    resistor . i suggest you get that one installed.
     
    santino1, Nov 10, 2005
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    philthy Guest

    actually it's exposed to moisture from the a/c system and is clearly visible
     
    philthy, Nov 10, 2005
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  6. Keith Phillips

    santino1 Guest

    the new style reistor is a sealed unit. and the evaporator coil sits in
    front of the resisitor so you may be getting moisture from other source
     
    santino1, Nov 10, 2005
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    maxpower Guest

    Blower Motor bad
     
    maxpower, Nov 10, 2005
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  8. Please explain: The Blower motor is either off or full on. How can a bad
    blower motor affect the resistor that sets the different speeds.
    I can pick up a motor for $30 from a wreckers if it will rectify the problem
    (blown resistors etc)

    Keith
     
    Keith Phillips, Nov 12, 2005
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  9. Keith Phillips

    Bill Putney Guest

    When the motor is full on, the resistors are completely bypassed (+12V
    applied directly to motor, no current thru the resistors) - so motor
    will still run on hi speed even with burned up resistors. When
    everything was good, the slower motor speeds were controlled by running
    the power to the motor thru the resistors (resistors and motor in series
    - resistors drop voltage, motor sees less voltage, runs slower). When
    the motors age, for some reason, they start pulling more current (could
    be due to partially shorted windings *or* bearings/bushings starting to
    bind up *or* brush dust building up on commutator and partially shorting
    between the commutation bars). Whatever the cause (of lower effective
    resistance => higher current) in the motor, the resistors are not
    designed for the higher current/lower resistance load, and they burn up
    (it's called cheap design with no safety factor).

    Clear as mud?

    Motor from a junk yard may or may not develop the same problem (as could
    a new motor, but likely not for a long while). Used motor => risk. New
    motor => no problem at least for a while (how long before the original
    motor started blowing the resistors?).

    Bill Putney
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    Bill Putney, Nov 12, 2005
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  10. Thanks Bill, quite clear in fact.
    It took about 3 years before4 the first resistor went another 3 years before
    the next one then 5 months.
    I have bought the one from the wreckers and will put it in tomorrow. If it
    works all well and good , if not at least I get practice in swopping it
    over.
    Incidentally I have the 2.7 Engine with 255000 on the clock, no sludge, no
    oil problems so a defective blower is no big deal.
    Keith
     
    Keith Phillips, Nov 12, 2005
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  11. Keith Phillips

    Bill Putney Guest

    That's a good record on tne 2.7L. Are you still on the original timing
    chain and water pump? I'm over 150k miles on mine and contemplating
    ordering the parts with the idea of putting them in when the mood
    strikes (Spring?).

    Bill Putney
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    Bill Putney, Nov 12, 2005
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  12. Yes, still on original timing chain and water pump.
    A chrysler dealer told me that I should replace the timing 'belt' at 100,000
    km. They did not seem to realise it was a chain!
     
    Keith Phillips, Nov 13, 2005
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    philthy Guest

    sorry to inform you bill but those credit card type resistors for blowers are
    made so any moisture can get to the circutboard and cause issues
    there was a redesign after 3 years and it does work a whole lot better
     
    philthy, Nov 13, 2005
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  14. Keith Phillips

    philthy Guest

    it still runs thru resistor but as a default mode so it has a working blower in
    case of failure as designed
    a blower that is using to many amps in it's duty cycle can burn out a resistor
    prematurely
     
    philthy, Nov 13, 2005
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  15. Keith Phillips

    Bill Putney Guest

    LOL! Not surprised. I had to show a dealer in the FSM that the tranny
    and diff on the LH cars have separate sumps.

    Wow - you're at 255k on original chain and pump! I have considered just
    letting 'er ride and see what happens - I'm tempted again with your
    experience. Some claim that the water pump coming apart is more of a
    risk than the chain, but of course if you do one, you might as well do both.

    Bill Putney
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    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Nov 13, 2005
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  16. Am I naive? I assume a chain just wears gradually as opposed to a belt that
    'snaps'. This gives you time to schedule replacement and, of course, do the
    water pump at the same time.
    Keith
     
    Keith Phillips, Nov 14, 2005
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  17. Keith Phillips

    Bill Putney Guest

    The chain *will* gradually wear, and eventually will develop slack that
    the tensioner cannot compensate for. Based on my reading, there is also
    a real-world risk that the water pump will lock up or come apart and
    wreak havoc - ripping the timing chain out and causing other damage -
    supposedly there are several real-world examples of this with the 2.7L.
    The third risk with the 2.7, due to it's being prone to fatal
    sludging, is that the oil pressure-driven chain tensioner can loose oil
    pressure and relax the chain, with disasterous results.

    Be aware that the 2.7L is an interference engine (i.e., if the cams and
    crankshaft become unsynchronized due to slipped or broken chain, the
    valves and pistons can collide - potentially very expensive).

    The good news for you is that your engine is apparently not falling
    victim to sludge - either due to very good maintenance (oil changes,
    etc.) and/or mostly hiway driving (vs. short trip, and/or stop and go).

    Bill Putney
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    Bill Putney, Nov 14, 2005
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  18. Keith Phillips

    Bill Putney Guest

    I'm not sure exactly what you're saying there, but no current goes thru
    any resistors when the motor is on hi speed. It may flow thru a solid
    metal path inside the resistor pak for hi speed, but not thru any
    resistors per se - maybe that's what you're saying in the first part of
    your post.

    Bill Putney
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    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Nov 16, 2005
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