after cracked manifold replaced, high (redline) rpm on startup

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by juanjlopez, Apr 5, 2007.

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    juanjlopez Guest

    I replaced my cracked exhaust manifold on my 99 Jeep Wrangler 4.0L
    (I-6). Note that this is really probably the 2nd time I try such a
    large job (at least I usually just deal with oil changes). This
    required the removal of the intake manifold also (because both intake
    and exhaust share the same gasket). I made sure I removed everything
    carefully. I disconnected 2 electrical connections and about 6 or so
    hoses, and of course the fuel line.

    I re-tightent the bolts according to the sequence suggested (center
    bolts first and then the outer). I tried to turn the jeep on, and the
    engine just rev'ed really fast to redline. I immediately turned it off
    (the first time probably let it run for 5 seconds). I double and
    tripled checked the vacuum houses and all the connections I touched
    during the replacement of the exahust manifold. Note that I did not
    replace any hoses, except for a connector from the air intake that I
    broke while trying to remove it. I still need to check to make sure I
    torqued all the bolts to the correct amount. I tried turning it on
    about 6-8 more times to see if It would eventually come to a normal
    idle, but it never did. I actually did not let it run more than 1-2
    seconds since every time I turned it on, it revs so fast, almost as if
    I were pressing on the accelator. I did checked the throttle, and its
    not stuck.

    My question is if a leak in the gasket or a vacuum hose will cause
    this problem? Or what other things could I have screwed up while
    replacing the exhuast manifold? Any suggestions I can try would be
    very helpful.

    -Juan
     
    juanjlopez, Apr 5, 2007
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    Scott Guest

    Sounds as though you have a throttle connection binding or improperly
    connected. My guess is the throttle is stuck full tilt.
    Scott
     
    Scott, Apr 5, 2007
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    Earle Horton Guest

    Left off the return spring?

    Earle

     
    Earle Horton, Apr 5, 2007
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  4. Loosen the manifold bolts and wiggle the intake around until they seat.
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    L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III, Apr 5, 2007
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  5. Or what other things could I have screwed up while
    Somehow, you didn't put the throttle back together correctly. Your
    throttle *has* to be wide open to rev the engine like that. A closed
    throttle would not rev the engine, no matter what else you did.
     
    Richard J Kinch, Apr 5, 2007
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    juanjlopez Guest

    I should have taken L.W's advice about loosening and wiggling the
    intake. Instead I decided to start checking each screw by tightening
    each one to make sure it was at the correct setting. Well, it turns
    out that the intake was not seated properly. There are 2 holes on each
    side of the intake that are suppose to line up with engine. One of
    them was not lined up and as I tighted the screw (since it was not
    torqued to the correct amount) it broke of a small pieace of the
    intake. In any case that meant that whole side was loose. So I began
    to tighten each bolt again, and when over them several times. Turned
    on the Jeep, and it was back to its normal idle speed :). I can live
    with the small chip on the intake, as it appears to be running ok. I
    plan on driving it on short drives, and re-check the bolts in a couple
    of days. Thanks for everyones suggestions.
     
    juanjlopez, Apr 5, 2007
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  7. Thanks for telling us what your solution was. We live and learn, by
    trial and error.
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    L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III, Apr 5, 2007
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    Mike Romain Guest

    Thanks for the update. It is a bit common to have issues with that long
    intake.

    Just FYI, the torquing should 'start' in the center and spiral out to
    the outside bolts, not alternate inside to outside. This will make it
    stay put better.

    Mike
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    Mike Romain, Apr 5, 2007
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  9. Well, it turns out that the intake was not seated properly.

    Effectively bypassing the throttle and making it a non-throttle.
     
    Richard J Kinch, Apr 5, 2007
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    Steve Guest

    In your worry about subtle things, never overlook the obvious. Did you
    re-connect the throttle return spring and throttle cable correctly?
     
    Steve, Apr 5, 2007
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    philthy Guest

    bet you did not get inatke manifiold seated on head correctly and now have
    a vac. leak there
     
    philthy, Apr 6, 2007
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    merrill Guest

    Thank for the follow up Juan.

    Merrill
     
    merrill, Apr 6, 2007
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