99 T&C ignition lock cylinder

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Frank Boettcher, Oct 22, 2003.

  1. My '99 T & C's ignition lock cylinder is hanging up. Took it out and
    looked it over. Appears that the rotating portion with the detents to
    stop at the various positions has grooves worn into it by the spring
    loaded hardened detent pins. Doesn't seem to be any way to fix it.
    Cleaning and liberal application of lubriplate grease had no affect.

    Is there an aftermarket source for this part, or am I stuck with
    Chrysler (and their normal exhorbitant service part prices)? The few
    places I've gone online have come up blank. And in either case, can
    I get a replacement that matches the current key set?
     
    Frank Boettcher, Oct 22, 2003
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  2. Frank Boettcher

    Neil Nelson Guest

    Any competent D-C dealership parts department can code a new
    lock cylinder for you, usually while you wait. You can
    check with a local locksmith, usually they are very familiar
    with automotive locks and many have inventory for curent
    vehicles.

    Major line parts stores such as NAPA and CarQuest have lock
    cylinders available also, but they usually come pre-coded.

    The price is the price, if it were really cheap, it wouldn't
    be of much use, would it?
     
    Neil Nelson, Oct 22, 2003
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  3. Thanks very much for the information.
    I run a manufacturing plant. I have a good approximation of what it
    cost to make and I also know that the total margin and markup will net
    a price at least ten times that.

    I could stomach that (my company does the same thing) if it were not
    for the inherently poor design. The hardness differential between the
    pins and the rotating detent casting which appears to zinc or powdered
    metal of some type, is far to great. I'm also old enough to be used
    to ignition lock cylinders lasting, if not the life of the vehicle at
    least longer than 4.5 years in moderate use.
     
    Frank Boettcher, Oct 22, 2003
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  4. Frank Boettcher

    Neil Nelson Guest

    My pleasure.
    I don't believe that yours is a typical example.
    There really haven't been a lot of complaints in this or
    other D-C oriented groups about ignition lock cylinder
    failure. The basic design has been in use for 10 years or
    so, my own personal experiences with a 95 and a 98 are not
    similar to yours.
    I have replaced them for customers, but at no where near the
    level of (for instance) Ford products.

    Sometimes things just break.
     
    Neil Nelson, Oct 23, 2003
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  5. It could be that something in the spring loaded pins fractured and one
    of the pins came out and got wedged in the cylinder, or some such.

    Also they caution people against hanging heavy keychains off auto lock
    cylinders. What's your keychain like?

    The cylinder metal by the way is what they call "pot metal" in short, it's
    all the scraps thrown into the pot. :) It's not known for particularly
    uniform consistency. You might have just got a cylinder cast out of a bad
    batch.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Oct 24, 2003
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  6. Frank Boettcher

    mic canic Guest

    yes you can at the dealer and it's not as high priced as you think
    the coded tumblers can be swapped over real easy
    how much stuff is on your keyring seems there is a issue with this on the
    vans but no tsb issued
     
    mic canic, Oct 26, 2003
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  7. Frank Boettcher

    mic canic Guest

    sorry to inform ya neil i have replaced about 10 this year for the exact same
    complaint all in the ns vans. all had lots of weight on the key chains
     
    mic canic, Oct 26, 2003
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  8. Frank Boettcher

    Neil Nelson Guest

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Yeah, and?

    Oversized, heavy, crap laden key chains aren't something new.
     
    Neil Nelson, Oct 26, 2003
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  9. For information of all who provided advice, a follow up:

    The local dealer wanted $90 for the lock cylinder and would be glad to
    put it in for another $90. I bought the lock cylinder from a local
    locksmith, coded to my key set for $41 dollars. Put it in myself,
    took about 20 minutes.

    My wife does have a heavy key chain but not that heavy. Plus it
    appears that the grooves that are worn into the "pot" metal rotating
    cast piece are not from the weight of the chain but from the number of
    cycles that it has been rotated. I still contend it is a bad design
    to groove out that quickly.

    Did I mention that this is the second lock set that has worn out on
    this vehicle. First went about 2.5 years ago. I paid the dealers
    prices for the replacement. That is what drove me to look for an
    alternative this time.
     
    Frank Boettcher, Oct 27, 2003
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