98 grand voyager intermittant starting problem

Discussion in 'Voyager' started by hawkeye via CarKB.com, Apr 17, 2005.

  1. I have a tempermental 98 GV that periodically decides not to start.
    Symptoms: Turn the key and nothing BUT all vehicle electronics all work
    fine. Dingers ding, instrument cluster comes to life, lights on, etc... I
    turn the ignition off, then back on and sometimes it starts, sometimes it
    doesn't so I continue the ritual until it finally starts (which thus far it
    always has).

    I changed the starter relay first (start with the cheap stuff first)...no
    fix. I heard that the starter assembly can develop a dead spot which could
    explain this vans issues. Thought I'd throw this problem out there to see
    if anyone else has experienced this type of problem.
    hawkeye via CarKB.com, Apr 17, 2005
  2. hawkeye via CarKB.com

    Bob Shuman Guest

    Either a dirty connection between the battery and the starter or if these
    are all OK, then most likely the starter solenoid contacts. Search the
    archives for this newsgroup as this has been covered many times over many

    Bob Shuman, Apr 17, 2005
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    maxpower Guest

    The next time it happens listen very closely for a click under the hood, I
    would bet there is a click, and the starter solenoid contacts are bad, it
    will just get worse until it wont start at all if the contacts are bad.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
    maxpower, Apr 17, 2005
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    Dan Guest

    I just went through this on my Intrepid, when it was cold, it would have
    problems. On mine, I could hear the solenoid click when I turned the key,
    but starter would not turn. I ended replacing the starter assembly. Do you
    hear a loud click when turning the key? As for the Intrepid, the starter and
    solenoid was a kit and both had to be replaced.

    Dan, Apr 17, 2005
  5. hawkeye via CarKB.com

    Bob Shuman Guest

    You can certainly replace the starter with a rebuilt or new unit and it will
    come with the solenoid attached. But, if you want to save a lot of money,
    for basically the exact same amount of labor (you need to remove the starter
    in both cases), you can just replace the solenoid contacts and clean up the
    plunger ring with a wire brush and some electrical contact cleaner.

    The Nippondenso starter motor itself rarely ever goes bad ... it is almost
    always the contacts. Search this newsgroup archives for a web site I've
    posted a couple times before or just Google on "Nippondenso starter solenoid
    contact". The guy operating that site sold them for $5 each (you need two
    which are different and there are 4 shapes/sizes available). The guy
    operating the site even added Chrysler application info that had been
    provided by Dan Stern to identify the right parts for each year/engine type.
    I've fixed 5 Chrysler vehicles in the last 3 years and they all had the
    symptoms you describe at roughly 5 years of around town use. The difficulty
    in getting it started will increase till one day if you don't fix it by then
    it will not start at all.

    The good news is you usually get a few weeks or maybe even months of warning
    .... the parts come US mail in about 5-7 days or you can overnight if you are
    willing to pay for the postage. The $10 plus shipping beats several hundred
    for a rebuilt unit or more for new and you know you still have the high
    quality original equipment part and not some cheap imitation which is of
    lower quality.

    Bob Shuman, Apr 17, 2005
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    Yep, it turned out to be the starter.

    Matt Whiting, Apr 18, 2005
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    mic canic Guest

    the cheap stuff first would be to clean the battery and terminals
    mic canic, Apr 18, 2005
  8. I appreciate all of the inputs....I put in a new starter assembly today,
    before getting all of the inputs and my van is still playing tricks on me
    (same problem). To add a little irony into the mess, it decided not to
    start in the parts store parking lot after I returned the old one in. I
    tried turning the key several times to no avail....moved the shifter into
    reverse and then back into park and bingo, it started right up.

    Could it be the ignition switch?

    matt ewoldt via CarKB.com, Apr 18, 2005
  9. If manipulating the shifter (next time also try "Neutral") worked, then it
    is likely the Neutral Safety Switch, which I *think* might be built into
    the position selector switch w/the '98 4-speed auto.

    Daniel J. Stern, Apr 18, 2005
  10. hawkeye via CarKB.com

    Guest Guest

    I had a problem on my 90 Dynasty where the ignition switch was bad. If
    you cannot hear any clicking from the starter then you might want to
    turn the switch "slowly" several times and see if there is a funny feel.
    There is a 'tab' on the switch that may be broken. I replaced the switch
    myself in about an hour of work.
    Guest, Apr 19, 2005
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